2 Power kords needed

1 for use on an Audio Note CDT-2 transport.
the other on a Tact RCS 2.0 Digital pre-amp.

Budget £200.

Fire away :gatling:

 

Steve go for a more shielding type of cable rather than bigger current deliverey version. WM

 

Tone, how did I kow you'd be the first to reply ?

Any examples ?

 

Got to say the Tact is very sensitive to RFI, needs all the help it can get, a Python/black mamba would be ideal, but way over budget, try a side winder gold plus some ers round the psu and on the lid. Tone

 

I would back up tones reccomendation of the shunyata sidewinders,new they are $280,but you'll find them second hand from 100-120 bucks.very solid cable,kills the kimbers,you'll notice great improvements as soon as you plug them in,i'm absolutely delighted with mine.

 

I would go for a tri coloured, over the side, triple-winder splash chord silver cable, really I think these will give you the best results on your budget, if nothing else they will look really shiney and expensive when you could have spent the money on something usefull, like music.

 

I prefer unitary construction, horizontal 'red' fuse, shiny black triple cored stuff.

I have a couple spare, £50 a piece?

Paul

 

Oh dear Gary

Still sitting with your head in the sand, even after a trip to WM's Nothing like someone dismissing something based purely on ignorance

 

A trip to WMs is supposed to convince one that magic can compensate for bad engineering?

Paul

 

Merlin, I thought WM system sounded great, however can you prove that it was because of a foot of power cord that made it sound great?

No?

Thought not, lets not piss around then, forty miles of shit mains terminated at the end in a house with an expensive LOOKING power cable is not going to help matters.

As for 'pride of ownership?'

Well if thats the judging factor then yes, a foot of fancy LOOKING power cable will make all the difference, make or break a system so it will.

 

You boys still don't get it do you your loss, all the seperate spurs in the world just give no interered with internal juice, but the same shit comes in though the wall, treat it right and its cool, leads are but one part of picture.
Paul I hope not, but it shows what you can with out re course to buying sailsbury or linn products. taking them apart in their own back yard is more fun, rather than paying the lip service and internet pit bulling, we actualy do the job and suss it, so if thats magic hey then we are 32nd level Necro manicers, rather than 2 year muppets are Mrs Miggins school for earthy wanna be's, but it's only rock and roll and I like it.
I feel the rumour machine got to work on garyi after they convinced him he must of imagined it never mind you aint heard this week, one a sheep always a sheep unless your a black sheep then your cast out to pink fish wilderness oh er........ where's me Densen horses for coarses. nite nite don't left Paul steveson bite WM

 

Actually Gary, it's very easy Go back to WM's armed with your own "perfectly adequate" mains leads, and swap over Ooh about five seconds should suffice for you to understand

Do blind comparisons if you like, that's the best way to realise that your flock ain't that clever really.

As WM says, you just don't have a grasp on this do you. Try to look at things in reverse, most of the most damaging crud comes from the system itself. All due to it's proximity. What's likely to be most noticable, mains noise generated one mile away or that which is just a few inches from your delicate power supplies and clocks?

Not magic Paul, just sensible engineering applied to aleviate problems that arise in nearly all digital electronics. All based on solid physics. Take the Pepsi challenge then report back.

 

I originally bought a 1.8m kimber kable power kord,and was expecting great things,but no it wasn't to be,i detected no change,what a waste i thought,but there was so many people who could detect changes,so i put it on the amp....nothing......put in in the DAC.....nothing....put it on the transport.....again nothing.

A few others,Merlin, Tony,Henry,mentioned the name shunyata,exspensive power kords,but could be got second hand,for the price of a new RA kimber.So i ordered two from the states,I was very very sceptical,as much as Garyi,a tad less,but i was willing to give it a go.

On unpacking them,I found them to be very solid,the kimber was flimsy in comparison,but hey it what it sounds like in the end,more than what it looks like.

I put one on the DAC and the other on the Transport,the Kimber went on the amp.I don't believe in burn in,plus they wern't new so i switched it all on put Macey Gray in the tray pressed,close/play,expecting to be very dissapointed.

God was i wrong,no the sound doesn't change at all,but what i did notice was the volume,it was so loud and powerful,i hadn't moved the volume dial from before installing the cables,but the volume had increased significantly,the bass became tighter and more defined,it felt the system was breathing more easily,i was most impressed,and it has changed my perspectine on the power kords,no they dont change the sound,they improve on what you've got,if that makes sense.

I've made two recent changes,one was swapping the Micromega DAC for the Cal Audio Alpha,and the other was the shunyatas,and my system has moved up so much in performance i cant believe it,by careful searching and selection,great sounds are easily obtainable.

 

Also try the VDH Mainsstream, not expensive, and very well shielded...

 

Isn't HenryT selling a couple of power leads?

 

Yeah, but they're Kimbers.
I'm using Yellos at the mO and fancy trying something different.

 

Just to add my 2 cents, when I put a Eupen GNLM 05/2.5 on my transport and DAC the difference was not subtle . I have one on my amp and sub aswell but there the differences were much less obvious - again giving credence to the theory that it's not so much what they stop from coming in to the kit, more what they prevent from coming out of it, particulary with digital boxes.

Also, last time I was at WMs, we tried his system with and without his expensive power cable (Z squared I think it is) just on the Belcanto, substituting a bog standard lead and leaving everything else as it was, fully power cabled and conditioned. The difference was quite stunning :yikes: - much bigger than differences I've heard between different boxes.

Bear in mind that this was still using the Trichord power conditioner for the amp

garyi and Paul R - before you make any more pronouncements on the subject I suggest you go and hear what an incredible difference power cables and conditioning can make.

The "what good can a 1m cable do after 40 miles of shit from substation to house" argument is totally bogus aswell. Think of it like an inline water filter or softener. In London I've used various versions and despite Thames Water's best efforts at providing you with diluted effluent saturated with chlroine, what comes out of those small units is as good as Evian

Michael.

 

A fair point Mike.

I don't doubt that the differences are there (note I said differences)

I suppose this would be true for interconnects as well, and special damping cloths, and fancy suspension tables and racks and spikes and everything else.

However this differences are at best subtle, and really do poke towards the geek side of this whole business.

For myself, I want to hear music, one average I spend forty pounds a week on new music, my flat is getting full of it (my girlfriend says too much!)

I don't care about the power leads rolleyes: ) nor do I care for the interconnects, or the damping materials or the racks.

I think, perhaps I need to take a sabtical from the hifi side and start posting in the music side, sorry guys.

 

My kettle's just packed in, you can have the kord off that if you want.

 

Sorry you feel that way Gary, but I guess if you have no interest in improving your system, then there is little point browsing the forum dedicated to acheiving that.

It's just a shame that you can't hear the full potential of your expensive boxes. Getting more from our music is what we are all trying to achieve after all.

I too spend far too much on new music. The joy of getting better results from the playback chain for me is going back to stuff I haven't listened to for months or years and discovering it afresh.