30 years on...

Oh streuth! There goes the coffee again!

 

Is there a point to that posting?

 

Yes of course. Hopefully it conveys the full level of amusement your quote gave me.

 

If you feel that Mana alters the tonal balance, please state clearly exactly what you believe it does to the tonal balance.

 

so if the noise floor was abundunant in a range of frequencies, say bass, then by lowering the noise floor, the background bass rumble would be reduced, thereby altering the tonal balance?

 

Noise isn't signal.

 

It projects the midrange.

It's a trick not just used by Mana. It tends to give the impression of greater detail, better focus, and tighter bass. Hear a properly balanced system and you notice what is missing.

 

How does it "project" the "midrange"? Where does it "project" it to?

FWIW, there are no great variations in level when a sweep tone is played through my system. IOW, it doesn't get any louder in the "midrange".

 

I didn't say it was.

However it is still present in the signal.

 

The object of hi-fi is to reproduce the signal. You are splitting hairs.

 

You'd need a SPL meter to check that conclusively, as volume perception alters with frequency.

 

I've got an SPL meter.

 

so how does a system know which is which if there's noise on the master tape?

 

then presumably you also have the calibration certificate?

 

It possibly would if you didn't have the speakers so high up.

I said I'm not going to debate this. It's pointless with you. You said you could easily prove that Mana didn't alter the tonal balance. Do that then instead of trying everything you know to try to deflect the conversation.

 

You obviously can't reliably get rid of noise which is in the recording itself.

Why am I getting the Third Degree, here? You are the ones with the Nobel-prizewinning (for JW) theories about Mana. Which of you actually owns any Mana?

 

I realised that I couldn't disprove an insane theory of yours. You are right: the debate is pointless until you provide evidence to back up your theory.

OTOH, I have provided strong evidence that Mana doesn't alter the tonal balance.

 

Where's the evidence that Mana lowers the noise floor?

I know Mana lowers the floor itself in relation to the equipment if you are gullible enough to buy into the sales pitch, but what about the noise?

 

You've lost one debate, now another starts. Come round to my house, and I will demonstrate to you how Mana reduces the noise floor. There really is no other way.

 

I've lost nothing except a cup of coffee.

Where's your evidence? Come round to my place and I will demonstrate that Mana alters the tonal balance of the system. Easy you see.