30 years on...

It might be added here that historical products would include valve amplification and will soon encompus CD and FM. Can anyone spot a trend here?

 

Hi,

Could you kindly direct me to sources for newly pressed and recorded classical vinyl (and please not the three stereophile recordings etc, we are talking major orchestras and conductors please)? Same for Jazz actually.

L8er T

 

I think you will find the LSO has now switched over to vinyl for all of it's new releases Thorsten.

 

Hi,

That is certainly news to me and looking at their website (which I am familiar with) also for the LSO. Their catalogue does not contain LP's to buy, BUT you CAN download their stuff for iTunes (and some is on SACD)....

LSO Live recordings page

So, if you have any info on LSO Vinyl, maybe we should be told details?

Ciao T

 

I would also be interested!

 

All I do know is that it was announced in the press about three months ago now, maybe you should email them?

 

Jazz - ugh!

There is a massive selection of used vinyl available -- the main reason why it's not a 'dead' format, IMO.

 

heathen

 

Alas Bub, I can't concur. I am lucky enough to pick up stunning vinyl buys these days, in fact I'm driving there shortly. Examples:

- Beethoven Piano Sonatas on Philips, Brendel, 13 record box set), hardly played and a steal for £5
- Great Piano Masteprieces on DG tulip, various with berlin Phil (Chopin, Mozart, Tchasikovsky, Ravel, Liszt, etc, etc), agian hardly played and a steal for £5

I remain convinced that these "collections" turning up at my source are in fact directly from the dead i.e. their family dispose of the vinyl collection. If so, at least they can take comfort in it all coming to appreciative homes with an attempt to play them on a system deserving of them.

If there's money to be made, someone will exploit the gap. Today's vinyl is surely just a form of exploitation. Nothing wrong with that and no reason it should not be but it's hardly done for artistic or qualititive merit or in fact for high commercial gain, is it?

Paul

 

You need to discover some different types of music 3D If your tastes in music on LP only run to jazz and classical then I can understand why you see things the way you do, but I can assure you that there is an absolute shedload of new music being released on LP these days, from all sorts of genres, and it is far from being only in the DJ market (which is by and large 12"s, not LPs).

The humble LP is alive and kicking, albeit with a very small market percentage, but it isn't going anywhere soon. Plenty of my twenty-something friends are vinyl converts, and many others are discovering it. If it were dead as you say, with no new releases, why would this be so? (Hint: It wouldn't).

 

Hi,

I do listen to other music (relative recent LP purchases where Linkin Park & Eryka Badu), BUT I miss current classical and jazz releases on Vinyl. Where pop/rock music is concerned, little of it appeals that much to me and my wife prefers CD's. A lot of current music makes me prefer live concerts usually including video footage, as the studio albums tend to overproduced and short on musical essence.

Yet I do not see it in shops much at all.

So, shedloads seems about right, for the whole UK and maybe one or two per year.... ;-)

And I'll wager internet down loaded music now confortably outsells LP.

Well, it has stabilised recently, but remember, all that is now CD used to be LP (I remember that far back... ;-) ).

Few people would argue that VHS is practically dead, it has just not quiet yet recognised it.... It also still gets loads of releases, but even in the 3rd world it has been largely ousted by DVD. By your standards VHS is also "alive and kicking".

Don't get me wrong, I like LP, but I'm not into self deception.

Ciao T

 

Both Placebo and The Kings Of Leon released their last albums onto vinyl,I bought them both easily from HMV.I also recently bought Made In Japan spanking new,and Simply Vinyl shoved out Bat Out Of Hell on 180g.

 

Hi,

Never heard of them.

Well, I have the original pressings, so why buy reissues?

Ciao T

 

So, Thorsten - you LIKE rock, but have never heard of Placebo (pretty good) or Kings of Leon (superb)

But you do like Meatloaf (cringe)?

And you have thousands of LPs?


Not having heard of some of todays larger and more mainstream artists does put your views on other topics in a new light for me personally.

 

So Thorsten,

by your definition, two channel hifi (let alone valve amps and big speakers) is dead too.

 

Hi,

Nope, I do not particulary "like" rock, it is one of the kinds of music I listen to. And one of the smaller section. I tend on all musical fronts to a more lyrical approach to music in many cases, which is why I would rate Bruce Cockburn and Jethro Tull before Meatloaf or Purple.

Great Pathos, in it's own context it's incredibly well made and concieved, I do enjoy that.

Might be around 2k+, I had a time when I was weekely raiding Nottinghill MVE's shops. I would think it has about 1/3rd classical et al, 1/3rd Jazz and Soul/Funk/Fusion and Reggea etc., with the rest left to world music and passing nods to mainstream rock, pop and such. Quite a few are right now in storage, after I had to clean up the living room.

That might explain it. "Mainstream". Not my stuff usually, if I come across interesting stuff I get it, but it tends to be at the fringes. My wife buys the mainstream stuff, but mainly "African" Mainstream and "US Black Music". I do dig most stuff produced by Dr Dre though, excluding around 50% of Eminem.

We may listen to very different styles of music. I tend towards stuff that has either an african beat or towards the rennaissance, baraoque and early music and it's reflection in rock, plus anything sufficiently able to catch my attention when I'm in a record shop, my does of "mainstream" I limit to breakfast radio. I don't watch MTV et al and don't much follow the charts, normal, alternative or whatever. In my office my assistant listens to extremely hard rap and latin american stuff if I let him, I tend towards "80" for background music and classical for thinking.

I just checked some tracks from the new KOL Album, passable, but what I heard is not something that'd catch my attentention too much. Actually, Placebo I HAVE heard (and about) but I'm probably missing the point, as I do with much current and older music.

I guess I'm mainly an old Fogey whose home is more the 17th century than the 20th, never mind the 21st.

Ciao T

 

Hi,

By my observation high quality music reproduction and recording is in effect dead. A very small and narrow minority cares, to me it is a passion that goes back to my earliest days, I am as the French say a "Melomane", as are some others, where most people are concerned "I could probably not hear the difference anyway!".

Now big speakers and valve amp's are outdated and outmoded even in that envoironment. It does not stop me from enjoying them. I am rarely interested in what most people consider popular.

Ciao T

 

I just don't get it.

My LP12 sounds really good.

Is Marco back?

 

Hi Gary. The difference between the Linn & the Simon Yorke (at twice the price):

The Linn is far, far better than people make out.

 

No, I mean other music 3D. 'Other' in audiophile terms only seems to mean rock/pop In the last few months I have purchased a variety of new music in the following genres on LP; electronica, hip-hop, American folk, death metal, punk, dub, drum 'n' bass and, er, vegan grindcore You obviously can't see the 'shedloads' of new LPs I mentioned because you are ignorant of their existence. Any half-decent independent record store should stock them, and they are easy as pie to find on the internet.

As for VHS, there is no comparison between that format and the LP. I believe DVD to be a superior relacement for VHS, whereas the LP was superceded by an inferior format with the CD, and therefore the LP has a good reason in many people's minds to stick around. I don't expect to see high-end VHS players being produced in the next few years (or ever) to cater fo the die-hard VHS fans, nor do I expect to see 'videophile' labels to pop up and start producing top quality, videophile VHS tapes for the hardcore VHS collector, akin to what Speakers Corner, Classic Records and so on are doing for the LP. If the LP is dead, then why has LP playback advanced so much in the last quarter of a century?

Just because a format is marginal, doesn't mean it is dead.