Ok guys I have a limited budget and since I am expecting to buy s/h i doubt demo's will be going on, so, I need an Amp or CD player to start with. poss the CD first. I have a budget of around £800 - £1000 for a second hand CD spinner. I also have £1300 for speakers but will pick them later, I listen too quite a bit of female vocals, some rock, but at low to mid volume, I don't play loud much and I wan't some thing that has a really good sound stage and dynamics, lots of detail and that "in the room with you" sort of presentation, the room is a normal living room with furniture and 15' x 12' wide and the hifi fires down the length of the room. I saw a Shanling SCD-T200 that looked nice for £850 but I have never heard any Shanling gear but i have owned valve gear before and it was good stuff (audio innovations) I would like some thing that conveys the emotion in vocals not just the sound if possible so any recomendations happily accepted, i'm not looking at DAC's and PC's just a good old silver disc spinner thanks