Ps. Look, let me try and clarify the situation.

Imagine you have a liking and interest in large succulent figs. That is marvellous. I have no problem with it. It is good that there is something in the world which brings you pleasure, and on the surface it is doing nobody any harm, except maybe for your bowels. Therefore when i question this situation, i am not attacking your interest in the figs, nor therefore, mocking you and your interest in the figs. I am questioning the figs themselves and your relationship with them as far as your understanding and intellect is concerned. Its the figs goddamit, don't you see. And as for my interest, well as Robin said similarly in GWH, its disussing the figs with you that kicks my bucket, regardless of whether or not i find the figs in themselves particularly entertaining. Does that make sense?!

***The cries of zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz are not coming from my corner of the pitch Wolfgang! It is apparent to me that this like most other topics of discussion involve all members firing blanks from the edge of the playing field. It is necessary to enter the arena and get a bit dirty if you understand my meaning. Now this may or may not happen, either way the dialogue is satisfactory and pleasing, or at least to me, but it will never be anything more. Now to elaborate in terms of your own vocabulary, if you desire to make 'progress' on this or any other issue, then it is necessary that you get dirty. ***

 

See, now forgive me for being indulgent, but Blackburn really does spawn men of wisdom.