ART Stiletto 6 - burn in or just harsh

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    Recieved a pair of ART stiletto 6 speakers today. Am auditioning them and they sound harsh and lacking in body.

    Rest of my kit is Cyrus CD8x Cdp with PSX-R and a Pathos TT (hybrid amp, valve pre, ss output)

    Have been listening for a few hours now - out of the box these sound harsh to the point of being unlistenable. Very detailed but also lacking body or substance - thin sounding.

    Could this just be attributed to burn in or does the speaker just not partner well with my kit? In the shop sounded great with a DK Designs amp (I took my Cdp along)

    Anyone with any experinece of this speaker - I'd appreciate your views
     
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    sq225917 Exposer of Foo

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    if they are new burn em in.
     
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    I have the stiletto rather than the V6 version, I can't comment from new as I purchased second hand. Using a modest DVD player and pioneer AV amp I don't have any significant harshness.

    Brendan
     
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    I've heard the (non V6) Stiletto recently, certainly not harsh - is it both sides equally?
     
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    Much less harsh with the 8vs amp. Burning in now. Will see if it loosens up
     
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    Interesting, Pathos was warmer with the MA and Cyrus with the Art? Bit odd!
     
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    Very odd I'd say. But after playing them through the Pathos all afternoon and evening yesterday, I tried them from the Cyrus first thing after I came home from work today. If I was going to burn themin for a lengthy period didn't want to cook my valves.

    IMO Cyrus kit with ART speakers would make quite a nice system acually.

    Just need to find the right speaker for the Pathos amp now :confused: Looking forward to tomorrow at SOM
     
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    Tenson Moderator

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    Give them a quick go with the Pathos before you head off tomorrow, in case they just broke in. Usually I have heard amps that sound sharp, sound sharp no matter what speaker you use. And a sweet sounding amp will sound sweeter than the sharp one no matter the speaker.... seems odd they would kind of swap character depending on the speaker. Neither speakers are a tough load.

    When I first got my MA GR10s they took a couple of days to warm up. Overnight they just came alive (even though I had not played anything). I think the tweeter physically had to warm through all its metal work from being kept in the very cold UPS storage rooms during transit.
     
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    Too late for that - all packed and ready to go - can always listen to them at SOM though. Am planning to get there for 10 so early start
     
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    you are going about this the wrong way IMO. My advice would be to find a speaker you like that goes well in your room and then choose an amp that drives them properly. Not the other way round.
     
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    Tenson Moderator

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    Well some interesting speakers on the way now anyway so I hear :)

    Robbo, I think thats just how it went. Got an amp, then thought of upgrading speakers.
     
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    Speakers can take as long as 200/300 hours to burn in so take things slowly and let the stereo play as long as possible.

    An alternative would be to buy an ex-demo pair.
     
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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    is that a wooden floor ?

    do you have plenty of soft furnishings/rugs/carpets?

    Perhaps you are getting room interaction which is more noticeable with one speaker than another.
     
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    I've given up on the ART Stiletto's
    Decided to go for a pair to Lumley Lampross 200/S2
    There was just no comparison even with a burnt in pair of ARTs that I used to compare them.
     
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    Thinking about it the Lumley is probably a very good choice for your room since it has a wooden floor. The vertical midrange tweeter midrange arrangement will limit vertical dispersion so you will get less floor and ceiling reflections. Not always a good thing but in this case it probably is. I think that tweeter is the same one as in Titian's speakers ;) Very good indeed!

    I always find the tonality a tad strange with the Lumley speakers but it is like that throughout the range so it must be a conscious decision when tuning them. Kinda seems like there is a little hole in the midrange. Apart from that though, those speakers are very good! They are actually a sensible design, unlike some of the bigger models ;)
     
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