Astonishing CD tweak? Zanash do try this!

Discussion in 'Hi-Fi and General Audio' started by larkrise, Jul 14, 2007.

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    Stereo Mic

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    Larkrise, you are forgiven.

    You look so cute and cuddly in your photo.
     
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    Paul Ashworth SP10 Aficionado

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    Tell me that was meant to be ironic, PLEASE!!

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    Agreed.
     
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    Stunning wit as ever but the fact that this thread has led to a thread taking the proverbial on Rob's forum should make you lot realise that you need to do something.

    Not that the internet really needs audio forums. But if they must exist it would be good to have a healthy ZG occupying the middle ground between Top Tip TeePee with it's sticker price fixations, and Pink Flush with it's dogmatic and backward approach to average sound reproduction.

    Sadly discussing slapping vaseline on your music carrier is unlikely to forge you a position offering valid and interesting information for use in assembling a quality audio system.

    However to blame this for the decline of the hifi industry is absurd. The state of the hifi industry has less to do with this lunacy, and far more to do with the industry itself churning out ever more expensive versions of existing models to ever decreasing numbers of brainless followers of brand culture and listening practices.

    It's the industry's own fault that fewer and fewer people will waste £4K on a friggin PSU which can't even match the performance of kit produced twenty years ago. In short, they are running out of idiots, as is this place.

    They are all herded together elsewhere it would appear. I read threads on the Naim forum and elsewhere and laugh out loud. The naivity and cluelessness on display is every bit the equal of any fool recommending a novel use for dairy spreads. A successful industry will not give a toss about nutters on internet forae talking about tweaking cheap chinese electronics or welding ugly supports just so that speakers can be listened to off axis. A successful industry will come about when they give us something new, that sounds better, looks better, and improves the quality of the general public's life. Can't really see that happening, but don't blame the Beltists for that. Blame yourselves.
     
    Stereo Mic, Jul 15, 2007
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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    I would dearly (really) love to know what the most teakiest of tweakers considers to be a step too far...

    I'd love to know at what point everybody would say... "I'm not doing THAT!''

    We're probably 80% there with handcream on your cd's... but what would make it 100% of the forum?

    It's an interesting question, I think a poll sounds like fun :)
     
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    I'm certainly not very keen on sticking hand cream in my cdp. Not in any shape or form.
     
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    Paul Ashworth SP10 Aficionado

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    How about sticking hand cream on some pert titties instead? :p

    Hubba hubba!!

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    la toilette Downright stupid

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    :D That made me laugh out loud, best post of the day!

    Very entertaining thread though, full of comedy moments, hilarious reading in fact.:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
     
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    larkrise Sheepdogs prefer red wine

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    Edited in the interests of peace and harmony
     
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    sq225917 Exposer of Foo

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    it all becomes clear, Peter Belt, purveyor of phsycho-babble tweaks.

    form an orderly queue for the telephone upgrade........ from MD..
     
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    larkrise Sheepdogs prefer red wine

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    Martha says thanks - how nice to have a friendly posting - how unusual!:) I do have another picture with teeth. . . .
     
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    Stereo Mic

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    Was that before or after you'd applied the cream?
     
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    RobHolt Moderator

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    It isn't to blame but it certainly hammers more nails into the coffin.

    £4k for a transformer and handful of LM317s in a fancy box is indeed lunacy but those buyers form a small part of the specialist audio industry. My advice is to point out the facts regarding such products and then move on if the advice falls on deaf ears.

    There is genuine innovation happening - for examples look to Rega with the new cartridges and Cambridge Audio implementing Class XD into it's amps. New technology and new ways of doing things at prices accessible to thousands is just what we need.
     
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    Sorry but they are both classic examples of why this industry is up it's own a----.

    Solutions desperately looking for problems. Nothing more and no advance in sound quality. What the frick is the point of XD FFS?

    Next....
     
    Stereo Mic, Jul 16, 2007
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    RobHolt Moderator

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    Never heard of XD FFS but....

    XD gives lower distortion than Class A/B, very close to that of good Class A but without the heat. I think that's worthwhile.

    Eliminating the metal tie wires in cartridges and finding ways to reduce the inductance of a MM cartridge without losing output are pretty useful things IMO.

    Both companies are patently not simply churning out the same product with a new label.

    Anyway, cheer up ya miserable git.
    Look on the bright side - nobody is talking about bloody hand cream.
     
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    Both companies are parading some wonderful new development through their marketing department that unquestionably does not advance the art of audio replay. As such it's snoozeville I'm afraid.

    I can just see the public rushing out to buy seperates systems because the non digital amps don't get so frickin' hot any more. Or going out to buy record decks because the stylus doesn't have one of those old fashioned ties! Wow how cool is that! Face it, to 99.9% of the population it IS the same crap with a new label.

    So firstly, the industry has singularly failed to improve it's product and secondly they have made sure that quality hifi is poorer value for money now than it has ever been. Meanwhile, the skin care industry goes from strength to strength..
     
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    Each has its own tresholds, mine are safety, lazyness and lack of euros, otherwise I am open to try any tweak...

    For instance, I wont buy a turntable because I am lazy, I hardly get up to play CDs/DVDs, imagine LPs... I mainly listen to satellite and radio music...

    I sold my Cayin A-88T because I wanted to roll tubes, but wouldnt bother opening it to adjust bias, dangerous and too much work for me, with my new amplifier I have been rolling the tubes almost every week, now as I am sure that on my system, Siemens EL34 sound better than EH, SED and JJ KT77, I might stop for a while...

    I wont bother testing the cream, because it is work and might spoil the player...

    I wont buy the blue light because it is too much money...

    I dont buy expensive cables because I have other priorities for my euros, but wont use freebies either, and everything is on supports in my system...

    I use better wall socket, PCs and a balanced isolation transformer, all do improve the sound, some more, some only with certain gear, but the result is the sum of the components...
     
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    That wouldn't be a tweak, it would classify as an upgrade.
     
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    melorib Lowrider

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    I know, I was just explaining my "limits"...
     
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    To be fair though, this is changing with the advent of better quality chinese manufactured kit.
     
    Robbo, Jul 16, 2007
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