Audio CDR

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    Baudrillard

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    Hi

    Can anyone recommend a good quality audio CDR that allows copying at as slow speed as possible? e.g 2 X


    Edit: I mean write speed, of course.
     
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    Thanks. Roxio only allows me to go down to 8 X with my TDK, CD-R80 700mb disc.

    I don't understand if the write speed is limited by the disc or my drive? (seem to remember trying a different disc last year that wrote slower and in the same drive!)

    -Drive is oem 'Sony' DW 23A, included with computer.
     
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    I'm curious. Why do you want record at slower speeds?
     
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    I always thought slower isn't necessarily better due to disc wobble at lower speeds-could be wrong tho:)
    Both my burners Lacie firewire and built in with my mac allow to burn down to 2x with memorex audio discs tho' I can't say I've noticed any differences:D.
     
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    I just heard somewhere that the slower the better, sonically, when recording audio- X2 is preferable to X48. Perhaps that was bullshit, then.
     
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    I was led to believe that too....that said, I can't remember where I read / heard it...!
     
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    When I tested the theory write speed differences were clearly audible. The slower the better. They were still crap compared to the original though.

    (runs for cover)
     
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    The quality of a particular write session will depened on the drive, the speed and the media used.

    x2 seems very slow though. I would concentrate on getting good quality media (see the reviewes on the links in me earleir post)
    Then, do not exceed the rated speed of the media.
    You should get good quality burns then.

    TDK make good media so as long as you don't exceed the rated speed of the disk you should be oaky
     
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    mr cat Member of the month

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    someone (on a forum) even claimed that copies sounded better than the original... :rolleyes:
     
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    Bob McC living the life of Riley

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    So did the comics originally.
     
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    Your drive appears to be a re-badged Liteon drive and by all accounts appears to be a very good one so no worries there.

    And if you are using TDK discs they are good quality so since your drive can write up to 48X CD-R and 24X CD-RW you should be okay burniong audio at even 24x in CD-R mode as long as the disc is rated at that speed
     
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    I have had many CDRs burned at high speed become unreadable after weeks/months.

    Hunting around the consensus seemed to be that 8X is a sort of watershed (but I haven't seen a rigorous set of tests) - so I switched to using 8X as my default and haven't yet had one of these disks go bad.

    My feeling is that for audio CDR is something of a disposable medium.

    I intend to try out some "archive-quality" CDs one of these days, but haven't yet.
     
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    I use Taiyo Yuden CDRs. About 30 quid for 100. Can't tell any difference sonically (and I do hear differences when other people give me CDRs to listen to) from originals.

    My CD writer is a Plextor DVD RW drive, and I typically use nero or itunes.
     
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    They just trotted out the old 'High Speed' dubbing argument from double tape-deck days. If your source speaks slower it's easier to understand you see?
     
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    This again! Seriously don't fall for it.

    Burning at slower speeds is a myth carried on from the early PC CD-ROM days where burning discs at the slowest speed often meant that duplicates of copy protected game CD-ROM's would actually work. Of course this was before CRC checking, buffers and mature optics.

    I can duplicate a copy of one of my CD's, creating an image and then I compare that image to the original bit for bit. Know what? They're identical.
     
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    Rubbish deleted.
     
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    Well, my bleedin heart goes out to you for the long, hard, tortuous years of hard labour 'setting the issue straight'. Well done! What perserverence!

    If you read my earlier post, you'll note that I said 'I heard' about it and not that I totally believed it, understood it and felt its truth in every inch of my being.

    You could also note, that I have not been fortunate enough to witness one of your many posts 'setting the issue straight'. I'll have to check in more often.

    Listen, if you've got something useful to say, then just say it- in a pleasant tone and with less amateur dramatics.
     
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    Looking at the edit time and your post time it took you at least fifteen minutes to type that and you still didn't spell perseverance right. :D

    My post wasn't wholly aimed at you but yes certainly more SNR was needed in that post hence the edit which you seem to have missed whilst in the twilight zone.

    This issue is OLD.
     
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    Richard, any joy getting your sofware to burn at lower speeds?
    FWIW the burn software on Mac OSX still labels 2X as 'most reliable'
    Frank
     
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