Audiophile argument form

Discussion in 'Hi-Fi and General Audio' started by julian2002, Oct 4, 2007.

  1. julian2002

    julian2002 Muper Soderator

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    In future will all participants in audio arguments please complete this form prior to joining in the carnage. it wil help immensely...

    You claim that an
    ( ) audible
    ( ) measurable
    ( ) hypothetical

    improvement in sound quality can be attained by:
    ( ) upsampling
    ( ) non-oversampling
    ( ) increasing word size
    ( ) vibration dampening
    ( ) bi-wiring
    ( ) replacing the external power supply
    ( ) using a different lossless format
    ( ) decompressing on the server
    ( ) removing bits of metal from skull
    ( ) using ethernet instead of wireless
    ( ) inverting phase
    ( ) reversing “polarity†of resistors
    ( ) ultra fast recovery rectifiers
    ( ) installing bigger connectors
    ( ) installing Black Gate caps
    ( ) installing ByBee filters
    ( ) installing hospital-grade AC jacks
    ( ) defragmenting the hard disk
    ( ) running older firmware
    ( ) using exotic materials in cabinet
    ( ) bronze heatsinks
    ( ) violin lacquer
    ( ) $500 power cords
    ( ) a universally applicable omnidirectional tweeter

    Your idea will not work. Specifically, it fails to account for:
    ( ) the placebo effect
    ( ) your ears honestly aren't that good
    ( ) your idea has already been thoroughly disproved
    ( ) modern DACs upsample anyway
    ( ) those products are pure snake oil
    ( ) lossless formats, by definition, are lossless
    ( ) those measurements are bogus
    ( ) sound travels much slower than you think
    ( ) electric signals travel much faster than you think
    ( ) that's not how binary arithmetic works
    ( ) that's not how TCP/IP works
    ( ) the Nyquist theorem
    ( ) the can't polish a turd theorem
    ( ) bits are bits

    You will try to defend you idea by:
    ( ) claiming that your ears are “trainedâ€Â
    ( ) claiming immunity to psychological/physiological factors that affect everyone else
    ( ) name-calling
    ( ) criticizing spelling/grammar

    Your subsequent arguments will probably appeal in desperation to such esoterica as:
    ( ) jitter
    ( ) EMI
    ( ) thermal noise
    ( ) quantum mechanical effects
    ( ) resonance
    ( ) existentialism
    ( ) nihilism
    ( ) communism
    ( ) cosmic rays

    And you will then change the subject to:
    ( ) theories are not the same as facts
    ( ) measurements don't tell everything
    ( ) not everyone is subject to the placebo effect
    ( ) blind testing is dumb
    ( ) you can't prove what I can't hear
    ( ) science isn't everything

    Rather than engage in this tired discussion, I suggest exploring the following factors which are more likely to improve sound quality in your situation:
    ( ) room acoustics
    ( ) source material
    ( ) type of speakers
    ( ) speaker placement
    ( ) crossover points
    ( ) equalization
    ( ) Q-tips
    ( ) psychoanalysis
    ( ) trepanation


    sorry but i now have a keyboard covered in metaphorical coffee thanks to this...

    by the way i blatantly stole it from the slim devices forum hence the slight slant towards server based audio.
     
    julian2002, Oct 4, 2007
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    SteveC PrimaLuna is not cheese

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    Big LOL :)
     
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    nando nando

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    EARS, INDIVIDUAL TASTE, NON BIAS,
    sorry but theory and practice are two very different things, measurements in audio equipment mean sfa,
    try one of the world's best selling power amp, worst spec on paper, QUAD 405,
    nando.
     
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    shrink

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    I say all hifi can be improved by judicious application of...

    "communism"

    haha.. superb stuff
     
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    Dev Moderator

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    Nando, I fear you didn't take Julian's post in the spirit in which it was intended.;)
     
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    Very good, and pretty well spot on; but surely you must have paid Nando to pretend not to get the point. Tell me you did, please!
     
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    nando nando

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    well!....me i no a nthing.
    nando.
     
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    julian2002 Muper Soderator

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    no it's all his own work.... cheque's in the post nando mate... ahem for a totally unrelated matter.
     
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    nando nando

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    julian where is the cheque? you told me to say nothing, sorry i still no nothing.
    regards, nando.
     
    nando, Oct 6, 2007
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