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You have contradicted yourself there bub. If every record sounds different it is because they were recorded and mixed in different environments on different monitors. The same piano will sound different on different recordings because of this. The other thing bub is that on one occasion in your house you got to hear what the artist intended, maybe, but you have not provided all of the information like recording media and hardware. Some of us get to hear what the artist intended almost every day. You have no clue what you are talking about in this regard.

Now that you have grasped the above concept you then have to acknowledge that what we hear at home is not what the artist intended at all. This is because we are listening on a completely different system and it will never sound they same as sitting in the control room and listening to the mix as the artist does.

Do not also forget about the mastering process that will then happen - largely with the absence of the artist, so it sounds different again than what the artist intended; the pressing process either CD or vinyl changes (deteriorates) the sound again; and then you have your hifi system that again sounds different to the studio set up. No system, MEG or anything, else will ever enable you to hear what the artist intented unless you are in the control room at mixdown; you can only guess what they intended.

What do you do when an artist mixes on PMCs - a speaker that you have never heard yet say is not good because other people have said so - apparently they are so far removed from being the right sound that no matter how accurate your ATCs they will never reproduce what the artist intended via the PMCs.

I do not know why I bother trying to educate you because it seems that when it comes to hifi you are beyond educating, your view being so blinkered and your aims and ideals are so ill informed because you have no clue about the recording process. Great that you love your hifi but to say that it is accurate and enables you to hear what the artist intended is such a joke it is unreal. From now on I will not get into a debate with you because it is a waste of time.

Lastly bub - stop misquoting me - I never said that ATC were excellent. As the owner already had ATCs and wanted to create more space by changing amps I recommended going active ATC instead. You should have been a politician, especially if some of the things that I have read on PFM are true.

<blockquote data-quote="dominicT" data-source="post: 619682" data-attributes="member: 1051">You have contradicted yourself there bub. If every record sounds different it is because they were recorded and mixed in different environments on different monitors.&nbsp; The same piano will sound different on different recordings because of this.&nbsp; The other thing bub is that on one occasion in your house you got to hear what the artist intended, maybe, but you have not provided all of the information like recording media and hardware.&nbsp; Some of us get to hear what the artist intended almost every day.&nbsp; You have no clue what you are talking about in this regard.Now that you have grasped the above concept you then have to acknowledge that what we hear at home is not what the artist intended at all. This is because we are listening on a completely different system and it will never sound they same as sitting in the control room and listening to the mix as the artist does.&nbsp; Do not also forget about the mastering process that will then happen - largely with the absence of the artist, so it sounds different again than what the artist intended; the pressing process either CD or vinyl changes (deteriorates) the sound again; and then you have your hifi system that again sounds different to the studio set up.&nbsp; No system, MEG or anything, else will ever enable you to hear what the artist intented unless you are in the control room at mixdown; you can only guess what they intended. What do you do when an artist mixes on PMCs - a speaker that you have never heard yet say is not good because other people have said so - apparently they are so far removed from being the right sound that no matter how accurate your ATCs they will never reproduce what the artist intended via the PMCs.I do not know why I bother trying to educate you because it seems that when it comes to hifi you are beyond educating, your view being so blinkered and your aims and ideals are so ill informed because you have no clue about the recording process. Great that you love your hifi but to say that it is accurate and enables you to hear what the artist intended is such a joke it is unreal.&nbsp; From now on I will not get into a debate with you because it is a waste of time.Lastly bub - stop misquoting me - I never said that ATC were excellent. As the owner already had ATCs and wanted to create more space by changing amps I recommended going active ATC instead.&nbsp; You should have been a politician, especially if some of the things that I have read on PFM are true.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dominicT, post: 619682, member: 1051"] You have contradicted yourself there bub. If every record sounds different it is because they were recorded and mixed in different environments on different monitors. The same piano will sound different on different recordings because of this. The other thing bub is that on one occasion in your house you got to hear what the artist intended, maybe, but you have not provided all of the information like recording media and hardware. Some of us get to hear what the artist intended almost every day. You have no clue what you are talking about in this regard. Now that you have grasped the above concept you then have to acknowledge that what we hear at home is not what the artist intended at all. This is because we are listening on a completely different system and it will never sound they same as sitting in the control room and listening to the mix as the artist does. Do not also forget about the mastering process that will then happen - largely with the absence of the artist, so it sounds different again than what the artist intended; the pressing process either CD or vinyl changes (deteriorates) the sound again; and then you have your hifi system that again sounds different to the studio set up. No system, MEG or anything, else will ever enable you to hear what the artist intented unless you are in the control room at mixdown; you can only guess what they intended. What do you do when an artist mixes on PMCs - a speaker that you have never heard yet say is not good because other people have said so - apparently they are so far removed from being the right sound that no matter how accurate your ATCs they will never reproduce what the artist intended via the PMCs. I do not know why I bother trying to educate you because it seems that when it comes to hifi you are beyond educating, your view being so blinkered and your aims and ideals are so ill informed because you have no clue about the recording process. Great that you love your hifi but to say that it is accurate and enables you to hear what the artist intended is such a joke it is unreal. From now on I will not get into a debate with you because it is a waste of time. Lastly bub - stop misquoting me - I never said that ATC were excellent. As the owner already had ATCs and wanted to create more space by changing amps I recommended going active ATC instead. You should have been a politician, especially if some of the things that I have read on PFM are true. [/QUOTE]

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