Bi Amping

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    Chris Davies

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    Hi guys

    Im thinking of Bi-amping my WAD Kat 6550 to get tighter bass. Any sugestions on an amp to pair up.

    I was thinking of an older Cambrige Audio P500 or alike.

    Anyone have something like that kicking around they want to part with ?

    Cheers

    Chris
     
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    I used to bi amp and within certain conditions I recommend it. It works best with 2 gain matched amps, with the bass amp being much more powerful. If you don't have gain matched amps then you'll need to be able to control the volume of the amps separately, something like a Crown K2 makes a great bass amp and it has volume control for each channel (I bought one to biamp with my Rogue but I couldn't fit it on to my rack:().
     
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    I used to run a modded Kit 88 which is a very similar amp. I'm not a fan of biamping, - monoblocing, yes - but most of my bi-amp experiments didn't cut it in the cost-benefit stakes. I found that (ducks.........) decent cabling made a big difference with the Kit 88, I had good results with Zu wax and HGA cables. I think Kimber 4TC would be pretty OK also. Oh, and I used an RA powercord.
     
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    Hi,
    Just some thoughts...
    Ideally, you would vertically bi-amp with an identical amp to the one you already have (i.e. one amp per speaker).
    Failing that, horizontally bi-amp (one amp driving the treble, and one for the bass), with a gain-matched amp (as stated earlier) from the same manufacturer. The higher quality amp should be on treble duties, although this is open to experimentation, particularly if one amp is more suited to controlling the bass.
    As your aim is to tighten the bass, you might also want to consider a sub instead of bi-amping. You will arguably get better sound cohesion if done properly over bi-amping with completely different amplifiers.
    Regards,
    Spungey.
     
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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    I also would spend my money elsewhere.

    what other kit do you have, if you'd like to explore this option?
     
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    at present i am using a integrated amp with a pre-amp output driving the treble and mid, out to the power amp that drives the bass mostly as the crossover engvages to a roll over of 2.7 kgh, i do faver that route as both int. and pwr amps are dual mono pwr's, .
    nando.
     
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    It would be good to know what speakers and cables you are using?
     
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    what me? i have a very special 20 year old castle winchesteres only two made to this specks cables i use are lat's ,
    nando.
     
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    Hi Guys

    Cheers for all the input !

    Icon Audio La 4.2 Pre Amp (Mullard and Eh Gold Pins)

    Wad Kat 6550 Upgraded in most areas - Mullard - Russian 5u4g - Eh Kt88s

    Pure Sound A8000 cd player

    Project Comfort Classic TT

    Cambridge Audio 640P PS

    Little Dot Mk3 headphone Amp

    IsoTek Substation

    Monitor Audio RS6 Speakers

    MF V-Dac for computer audio

    Chord Concert Speaker cable

    Chrod RCA's + Qed Silver Ani RCA's

    All are well isolated on wooden Spikes/Feet

    Thats about it i think via the dab and older cdp
     
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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    Room size is large hi ceiling also 5 meters by 5 meters hight 3 meters

    Cheers Bottleneck :)

    Domestically im single so if i can go big i will :) what else would you think about ?
     
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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    well, I'm sure you know, but just in case - large speakers are often easier to drive than small ones so you shouldnt worry about your amp for now.

    '' speedy steve'' on this here forum could build you some rectangular Tannoy GRFs for about £1500 including the drivers. You'd have to spend more than twice that to see more I'd suggest.

    'the bigger the better' with tannoys, and horn loaded better still. This makes the grf, corner grf and autograph some of the best implementations of this driver.

    This is the type of item that 'should' turn you into a grinning maniac.


    I personally prefer a seperate horn / 15" driver to the Tannoy dual concentric, but that doesnt make my love of Tannoy diminished.

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ALTEC-VALENCI...pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item3a59c663d5

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TANNOY-BUCKIN...omeAudioHiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item35a984809a

    jbl 250 ti - here - http://www.audiomarkt.de/



    Out of that lot, I think I'd just email speedy steve. for £1500 you really cant do better IMO.
     
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    Looks like im saving for some tannoys then lol Cheers Chris !!
     
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    Btw it will be the speedy steve option when i have eough cheers chris !
     
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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    I would.

    You can save in parts. Look out for some 15" tannoy DCs on Ebay, and then get the cabs built when you have them.


    NB I met steve about a month ago, nice chap. He is selling his own GRFs to make some visually slightly different ones. Might be worth asking about this.

    Cheers

    NB if you do get something like this, you'll have to show us with photos !
     
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    Quote

    YOU CAN BUY MY CHEVIOT'S SEE THREAD,
    NANDO.
     
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