Bi-Wiring, any point?

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    bemcsa

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    I would be interested in anybody's experiments with bi-wiring speakers. Is it better to:

    - spend the money on a good quality single wire and use jumpers on the speakers

    - its totally dependent on the speakers and amp being used

    - its only copper wire, so makes no difference
     
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    analoguekid Planet Rush

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    First one for me.
     
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    michaelab desafinado

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    Option 1 for me too.

    Michael.
     
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    Well, based on assumption rather than experience, I'd go for option 1. I can see why bi-wiring may be different, but not necessarily better, so you may as well just investigate single runs of cable to either save money or open up a wider range of options for the same money.
     
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    ditton happy old soul

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    I was curious about this, and bought some s/h Nordost Bi-wire Flatline, mostly it must be said for the Flatline. It came set up with the Bi twisted into mono at each end, and I already had jumpers fitted on the JM Labs speakers. I suppose I owe it to myself to try the Bi-wire.

    So I do 1, but really ought to test this, especially since one of my next tweaks is to have one end properly terminated - the other one already is.
     
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    analoguekid Planet Rush

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    I'd save your time and money ditton, and keep it shotgunned.
     
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    Option 1 and use the same cable as jumpers instead of those stupid bars most speakers have.
     
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    ditton happy old soul

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    well that's a vote for sanity I'll accept. would you recommend that I have both ends properly terminated?
     
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    analoguekid Planet Rush

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    Prolly not notice much difference D, but it will help with keeping the ends clean, and the flatline is pretty fragile, so might help with this too, I would say do yourself, but i understand this cable is tricky to work with.
     
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    Can work both ways, I've had good results with both.
    If the speakers have those naff jumper bars, good gains can be had with jumper wires
     
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    hmmm. Been there, done that. No difference. Then again, we used a couple of strands of wre from an old Cat5 cable ;)
     
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    bi - curious

    I reckon it's a waste of money and untidy

    i go with a single and a jumper
     
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    getting rid of jumper bars - another option...

    This is what I did with my JM Labs 905s. Take the binding post plate off and attach the HF fly leads to the LF posts, then screw it all back together again. No more jumper bars. No jumper leads required. On set of cables drivers the speakers full range. :)

    no more jumper bar
     
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    No question, option 1 is the best - use decent quality jumpers though to get the full benefits of this choice or you may waste your time...and money.
     
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    If you have decent speakers like Dynaudios, which only have single binding posts, then there's no issue :torkmada:

    :duck:

    Michael.
     
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    wadia-miester Mighty Rearranger

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    Failing this, internally hard wire them together with Appropriate *wanky wire* this works well too. Wm
     
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    ditton happy old soul

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    this doesn't look too technical!!
     
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    The consensus seems to be a vote for single wire. This does not seem to be a result of experimentation, just the reluctance to pay for 2 runs of wire, which is understandable if it doesn't give any sonic improvements.

    The reason I was interested is that in the meadowlark owners manual they recommend bi-wiring, but it doesn't say why. I was given some bi-wire many years ago (as part of a system) and the dealer said that it separates harmonics travelling along the cable at different frequencies, so giving a better image :confused: . If it a dealer said it, it must be true.
     
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    Are people beginning to wonder if the fashion to put a pair of terminals on the back of loudspeakers was a big mistake all along? It seem to be an unneccesary complication with no real benefit as most people never really bi-amp these loudspeakers nor convert them into active. By connecting a run of short bar of metal or a piece of jumper wire across them making them essentially having a single pair of connection.
     
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    I've listened/experimented with both option 1 and option 2 and for the same amount of money spent on each option, single wire wins hands down. But then again if you are a cable sceptic this is all bollocks anyway!
     
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