Big Tannoys

Cheers. I will probably bid on it - provided you don't relly need it. No sense in bidding against each other since bigears is looking at the one I already have. Incidentally, when I removed the unit I found a load of crud between the rear black cap and the tweeter dome (papery stuff). May just be a damping problem but it's beyond me how it could have got in there or not been noticed when the units were checked.

 

Disagree; the typical Tannoy sound (from 10? in 2cub-feet to the Autograph Pro and regardless of the skills of the users) is superbly colored. It is colored from top octave to the lowest octaves, making all music to sound identical. Yes, for the ?recreational listening? or for none-demanding listening (as the most hi-fi people do) the Tannoys are perfectly fine but for obtaining serious audio results they are too far from neutrality.

Rgs, Romy the Cat
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Orion

 

The Westministers at the Munich show were very coloured, sounded very quacky, quite enjoyable though.

 

Coops, the Munich show in 2006? When I refers to Tannoys I means only Silvers, Reds from 50-60s and to a moderate degree Gold production from beginning of 70s. Everything else from them was ordinary crap that do not worth any attention. The after-70s Tannoys I do not call Tannoy at all but rather I call them: Genetics British Dual-Concentric Drivers.

Rgs, Romy the caT
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VOLCANO DIGITAL VAPORIZER

 

Romy Hi, this years Munich show, a chap I respect opined that you would get used to the 'quack', I am not so sure!
The early stuff I have no experience of, Keith.

 

Well, I think they're amongst the least quacky horn speakers I've ever heard, and I've heard a fair few. I'm probably not serious enough, or something. But the idea that they make everything sound the same is simply false, IME and IMO. And the notion that everything Tannoy ever made can sensibly be described as "crap", apart from a few vintage DC drivers, is ever-so-slightly an overstatement.

-- Ian

 

No I don't really need it at all, go for it if you want it.

I would guess that bigears probably just checks the drivers with his ears and wouldn't even remove a magnet cover unless he suspected a problem. I've never removed the cover from the hf on my Golds but wouldn't expect to see any crud in there either, it should be impossible for anything to get in there by accident I would have thought. I don't recall there being anything unexpected in there on my LRM's. I might have a peek in mine tomorrow if I get time. Did you try removing the crud and re-assembling to see if there was any improvement?

 

Yes - full of hope after a prticularly crappy weekend. Made no difference whatsoever. I measured the resistance too (11 ohms, which is the same as the one on ebay). If he tested them by ear, close up, he may not have noticed. I dismantled / re-assembled them in the spare room which is very small and I thought they were okay. It was only after I set them up properly and sat back a few meters that I really noticed it. The difference is very large, certainly large enough for disinterested GF to spot it blind with a mono source. I'm still not entirely convinced it's the coils. The whole upper mid sounds coloured to me and I was thinking crossover.

 

I feel your frustration! If it's a crossover that's maybe iffy then you could try swapping the drivers between the cabs to see if the prob stays with the same cab, although I'm sure you already thought of that.

 

Ian, I didn't see the point in reacting to the post. I'd have had less contempt for his comments if he'd inserted IMO somewhere in his post.

 

Doh! That really would have been the obvious thing to do. So obvious that I didn't think of doing it! Engage brain

 

Mike and I stood together outside the Tannoy room in Munich, discussing the Westministers , Ian have you heard Mikes new horns, they will be ( I am almost certain ) more revealing,transparent and less coloued than anything you have heard before.

 

Well, I think Westminsters are excellent, and Romy is traducing them. You're certainly entitled to think they're quacky, but I don't agree.

I haven't heard Mike's new horns (I assume we're talking about Stereo Mic here), but no doubt they're very good indeed.

All speakers are coloured to a degree, there is no such thing as neutrality in speaker design.

-- Ian

 

The guy is just spoiling for a fight and quite frankly I can`t be arsed

 

out of curiosity, what happenned to these FSMs strummer had for sale, I noticed that they weren't sold at Ebay?

 

He's decided to keep them so that Ian and I can listen to them sometime.

 

Absolutely. Otherwise all "neutral" speakers should sound the same. Also coloured doesn't mean "crap" or that you can't enjoy them. Just a matter of personal taste.

 

I can't agree , listen to Mike's and post your thoughts, TAD compression drivers in a properly implemented design make a nonsense of all conventional loudspeakers.

 

They're great drivers, no question at all, and I expect Mike will end up with something pretty exceptional. But of course they don't make a nonsense of all other speakers in all respects, and even if I end up being very impressed by them, I will still remain impressed by Westminsters. It's not necessarily an either/or.

And, of course, Mike's main compromise will remain his room, which is far from ideal for his favoured speaker approach, as he knows full well.

-- Ian

 

Ian Hi, I will be interested to hear your thoughts once you have heard them, regards Keith.