Bush's acceptance speech

Saab

Saddam had been playing games with the UN for over 12 years.

Bush gave an ultimatum.

If I was in Saddams shoes, I would have conceeded to allowing total and unrestricted access but he hoped that Bush would back down in the face of UN pressure.

Saddam had to go. In retrospect the WMD is irrelevant, Saddam was a dictator without any regard for human rights and make no mistake, if Bush had not invaded, Saddam would still be there, making and breaking promises and abusing his countrymen in the meantime.

Bush had courage, he deserves praise.

Regards

Mick

 

What absolute bollox.

It's been widely reported that 11 of the 15 terrorists that participated in 9/11 came from Saudi Arabia. Why not invade them? WTF did he Saddam ever do to US or UK directly? What right did Bush have to give Saddam an ultimatum?

Take your blinkers off and face facts. Bush and Thatcher that you admire so much have done more harm than good.

Bush is an idiot but in the US he's the partially sighted leading the blind. I think he will win again, no thanks to the stupidy of the yanks.

 

Israel and US have all been playing games with UN for years. How many resolutions is Israel in contravention of ????

Saddam was trying to keep his strong man image up which is a large part of what Bush is all about.

WMD is not irrelevant taking a country to war under false pretences is not irrelevant. To quote "abusing his countrymen in the meantime" ??

Bush did not have courage. IMHO a classic US response without subtlety or intelligence or with a view ot the long term implications.

 

Chaps

Bush was electected by the due process to protect American interests. That is what he is doing.

If you do not like it, then tough luck.

Half the reason why Bush and Blair were able to do what they did, was because the opposition consisted of silly little yapping puppies whose idea of an effective protest was to lob a few bricks at shop windows when walking around Trafalger Square in some pathetic and non achieving protest march.

The reality of the situation is that you guys let them do what they want and you lot feel good about yourselves when you take the moral high ground.

I would rather have you lot as the oposition any day, all you can do is bleat. You achieve absolutely nothing.

When Bush wins, as he will, will you still continue to bleat.

Regards

Mick

 

at the start i was in favor of the removal of sadam for humanitarian reasons. he has an appalling human rights record and it's a good thing that he's not going to be able to continue this.
the continuing occupancy of iraq is appalling. we should pull out immidiately and let the country find it's own level of govornment. there should be a fund made available to a duly elected govornment that can be released immediately to help rebuild the country which would then be repayable in oil (which is what it's really all about). that way the iraqi people are responsible for their own furtures but the uk and usa get what they (we) want which is oil to run our suv's and beemers.
i don't particularly agree with what i've just written but it does seem to be a decent solution that will molify those in power on both sides.
cheers


julian

 

Mick, I'm at a complete loss as to what Bush has actually achieved. Saddam did nothing serious enough to warrant an invasion. It's not just my opinion. As I've mentioned before, NONE of the 9/11 terrorists were Iraqis, there WAS no Al-Quida presence in Iraq (there is now). Bin Laden was trained by the Americans along with most other terrorists and he is still free and NOT in Iraq as far as anyone knows.

I'm quite happy "bleating" in the knowledge that I don't have my head stuck up Bush's arse, but also feel sad that people like you somehow only seem to see what their leaders want them to see. Any protesters against Bush's thinking in the US (the model of democracy - yawn) were treated like traitors. Do you not have a mind of your own?

 

Bush was elected by perverting the USA voting system.
Get some facts mick

 

Dev

I agreed with the invasion and as it so happens I have always maintained that if Thatcher had not been deposed during the last few days of the previous scuffle, she would have had Saddams head on a pike.

I just happen to agree with the current US and HMG policies on this issue. Possibly I am more in touch with the status quo that you are.

It is easy to slag Bush off but thanks to him, Saddam will be rotting in a cell next year.

The system is the system and Bush won according to the rules........stop whinging.

Regards

Mick

 

He did NOT win by the rules.
Mick you really need to get your facts straight.

 

He won

end of discussion.

I think some of you love arguing for lost causes.

 

as do most of the candidates if they cam.

 

Indeed you are Mick.
It is a sad time in our world when a blood thirsty racist is in control of one of the largest countries.
TBH, anyone who is to dumb to remember to chew a pretzle before swallowing should be put out of their missery at birth.

 

Penance

Either do one of two things.

Do something active and positive to help remove Bush or shut up.

You are wasting your time bleating to me, in fact I rather enjoy watching you bleat, so why give me the satisfaction.

Regards

Mick

 

Please explain how a UK citizen can influence the US elections?

Im not bleating Mick, merely pointing out the errors in your beliefs.

 

Why? what did he do to you or anyone in the west?

BTW, I'm not defending him, just pointing out that other leaders are just as bad if not worse. Whatever he did, he could argue was a matter of internal Iraqi affairs.

I hate what the Chinese did to Tibet, or what the Saudi ruling families are doing to their own people as well as others, what Mugabi is doing to white farmers etc.etc. The list is endless, you are just taken in by propaganda. You are no more in touch with the facts than any other Tom, Dick or Harry.

I'm so glad you are enjoying yourself watching us bleat, but I have nothing to add on the subject, so you can carry on enjoying yourself with others. Ignorance is certainly bliss.

 

Bush and the oil moguals that put him in power may appear to have won in the short term. But rest of the world and american people certainly have lost and is on a sliding slope to disaster the world has never seen before.

 

Dev

The US and UK had to step in 13 years ago to protect Kuwait and oil supplies. His very existance was a potential threat to us all.

His demise is the best thing that happened in 2003.

As to your other paragraph, the Saudi's are our commercial friends and I agree that much more should be done to depose Mugabie.

Regards

Mick

 

Totally different circumstances. Saddam was unquestionably the aggressor. I don't think any of us "bleaters" would disagree with the actions then.

 

Nah, just that Bushes old man should have finished the Job in 91, and not left his Micky mouse son in white-house to make a complete pigs ear of it now

 

I read somewhere that the reason they didn't want to finish it then was because they feared instability in the region. His tyranny did ensure peace in the country.