Chavs

Chav's/Scallies are still very much the minority I think, its just the none chavs are busy either working or studying, where as the scallies just spend their time hanging round in the streets so they are much more noticable.

Even when I go clubbing scallies tend to stand out from the crowd, and they rarely last 20 minutes before they get thrown out for abusing the DJ becuase he won't play Eninem in an indie club.

 

I help a friend of mine with running his under 18's parties, including some stuff on the internet message board. I'm constantly amazed at the kids on there, the can't spell the simplest words because they're all so used to using 'text speak' that anything with vowels in throws them completely, anything longer than 6 or 7 letters may as well be a foreign language. Goodness knows what they do at school all day. Talk about 'fashion' R&B and phones most likely.

 

As say probably a minority in the UK as a whole, possible the majority in certain areas.

But from what you have said you have pretty much described my school. Again I am sure there are plenty of kids who can spell correctly, you just don't notice.

The problem with the British is we only notice the bad stuff, its the same with HIFI, we're never happy, we always need somthing to moan about

 

No I've been trying to get them to spell correctly as I'm fed up of having to read through random symbols all the time. Yes, some of them can do it when they try but many of them just cannot type a sentence out without abbreviating something along the way. What happens when they're grown up? Will english morph to some awful looking mess with no vowels anywhere?

 

I don't know, but I never thought anybody could be a worse speller than me :MILD:

 

Wayne Rooney defines chavness.
Thick as pigshit, a violent, obnoxious moron who, as Alan sugar said, would be in prison if he wasn't a footballer with more money than brain cells.
As Dickie Davies said on Saturday's Fighting Talk he defines the word scum.

Bob

 

That is middle-class behaviour.

 

Is Chavism only in the eye of the beholder?
Do Chavs discribe themselves or others in their group as Chavs?

Chav Central or just an overdose of Footballers Wive's?

 

Not grasping that point was Burchill's biggest error, a serious blunder considering it was the premise of the whole program. Being thick / violent / tasteless / criminal is not a class thing, and by defending / supporting the 'chav' phenomenon as a class artefact Burchill totally shot herself in the foot. Most people I know, regardless of alleged social class, simply detest chavs. I also strongly suspect many 'street fashion' chavs are middle class kids pissing their parents off!

Tony.

 

I don't know, nearly all the chavs I have seen are from poorer families, middle classe kids tend to become goths or moshers to piss their parents off, this is very similier to chavism just on a different scale.

However most the people I know who live in council estates are not chavs and they detest them heavily, and yes they are from working class backgrounds.

You also find an area which appears over run with chavs actually just has about 3 houes out of 100 with a group of chavs/scallies living in them, this is enough to cause nuisance and riot of course.

 

Middle Class - organic food, Sainsburys magazine, weekend at Centre Parcs

Working Class - oven ready chips, brown ale, lottery tickets, fags, week at Butlins

I think that's a balanced summing up.

Matt.

 

I would be some where in the middle then, where I live is stupidly middle class, loads of organic pubs and cafes, there is even a large supermarket at the end of my road that only sells organic food.

My parents shop at Tesco, do the lottery, but they don't smoke, we did go to Pontins when we could afford it, but my holiday prefences are usualy quite middle class, usualy staying in decentish (3 star) hotels in large European cities.

I cannot cook though so I suppose that is working class.

 

Thank F*** for that then - I love oven-ready chips, ale and lottreys! Gave up fags, never been to Butlins, but then I've never been to Centre Parcs either - much rather have holidays at the weekend, if you get my drift...

No baseball cap, Nike or Gap in sight though - mine's all Primark and TK Maxx - more money for music!

As for chavs being in the minority - yeah, that's probably true - as others have said, they're just more visible than people who justify their existance by, I don't know, err, WORKING for their keep. That's the difference between chav and working class - working class people work. Odd concept, that, but you know...

As for text speak, we're all doomed.

...and the world MAY live for 25-50 years, but it won't matter, because global starvation will have occured by 2023 - and that's if we're lucky (since I don't see anyone clearing the nuke warheads off that Russian sub (Konsomolets?? sp???) that went down in 1989 - when the warheads rust through, there's enough radiation on board to kill every living thing on earth once it leaks into the sea...

 

PS - Anex - love your avatar - very "Back to the future"

 

Do people actually go to Centre Parcs?
I noticed recently that they're advertising their new one in the Lake District.. Surely no-one would go to sit in a semi-covered holiday village when you've got the Lakes on the doorstep?
Or do folks like their lives so sanitised and organised that it's popular?
If so I despair even more (oh woe etc.)

 

fyi the only bit of Center parcs that's covered is the swimming pool and sports centre bits (cos stuff would get rusty otherwise)- the rest, in the Sherwood one at least, is acres of open forest land with loads of wildlife and really is very well managed and in sync with its surroundings (no i don't work for em!)

Cheers

Rich

 

Hum, so I like Oven Ready Chips, Ale, have Lottery Ticket, but don't smoke, been to Centre parcs (last time was 2000 though, actually not been on holiday since)
So what's that working middle class????

Anyway, nothing wrong with Working Class, but Chav's are differnet, they don't work, they just live of benifits and expect us to pay for their life style, that's what gets my goat and dam I've just broken my NYE res. $h1t. but that dam program got me soooo fired up, I wish I'd never watched it. Now in true Sky One fashon there should be a program showing what Chav's are really like! oh forgot its call Street Crime uk, Street Wars & booze britan isn't it?

 

actually i'm off to one this year.
the facilities look great and as my father is disabled and unable to travel abroad it affords the opportunity of us to go away as a family and not have to worry about the weather.
imho chavdom / lowerclassness is a state of mind. a mix of hopelessness, misplaced pride and apathy which means that the sufferer isn't happy with their lot but can;t be arsed to do anythign about it.
cheers


julian

 

hang on, Chav's don't drink Ale, they drink, alco pops and Wife beater!

Yep can fully recommend Center Parcs, though its busy at the weekends, from what I remember, must go back, I've just not had the time or money over the last 5 years.

 

Lawks!
Folks actually like the idea of Center Parcs!!
I think i must be on my own in wanting holidays where there's natural beauty and no other people.
But then I'm a miserable old bastard...