After some help i've managed to get this under 20k :cool: Apparently this is used an *proper* observational tests. There was a bunch of text with it about the relation between time taken to find and observational (and something about development of left (?) side of the brain) levels. but i've lost it. :D It took me about 10 seconds. My girlfriend got in about 3! Other mates i've shown it to have varied from couple of seconds up to "b@ll@x I give up!" [B]So, can you find the man?[/B] Don't give it away and say where he is though. Just How long it took. HONEST!!! I wonder if AT's Garlic Bread habbit will effect his ability? Will the old gits outdo the young skally wags? Will the "yea bangin mate" crew outdo the "glass of port with that old chap" possé??? Will TMH be to hammered to ever get it!!! MO :D