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    tones compulsive cantater

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    I know absolutely nothing about the band, have never heard it, but I thought this article in the New York Times might interest someone:

    The Case Against Coldplay

    By JON PARELES

    THERE'S nothing wrong with self-pity. As a spur to songwriting, it's right up there with lust, anger and greed, and probably better than the remaining deadly sins. There's nothing wrong, either, with striving for musical grandeur, using every bit of skill and studio illusion to create a sound large enough to get lost in. Male sensitivity, a quality that's under siege in a pop culture full of unrepentant bullying and machismo, shouldn't be dismissed out of hand, no matter how risible it can be in practice. And building a sound on the lessons of past bands is virtually unavoidable.

    But put them all together and they add up to Coldplay, the most insufferable band of the decade.

    This week Coldplay releases its painstakingly recorded third album, "X&Y" (Capitol), a virtually surefire blockbuster that has corporate fortunes riding on it. (The stock price plunged for EMI Group, Capitol's parent company, when Coldplay announced that the album's release date would be moved from February to June, as it continued to rework the songs.)

    "X&Y" is the work of a band that's acutely conscious of the worldwide popularity it cemented with its 2002 album, "A Rush of Blood to the Head," which has sold three million copies in the United States alone. Along with its 2000 debut album, "Parachutes," Coldplay claims sales of 20 million albums worldwide. "X&Y" makes no secret of grand ambition.

    Clearly, Coldplay is beloved: by moony high school girls and their solace-seeking parents, by hip-hop producers who sample its rich instrumental sounds and by emo rockers who admire Chris Martin's heart-on-sleeve lyrics. The band emanates good intentions, from Mr. Martin's political statements to lyrics insisting on its own benevolence. Coldplay is admired by everyone - everyone except me.

    It's not for lack of skill. The band proffers melodies as imposing as Romanesque architecture, solid and symmetrical. Mr. Martin on keyboards, Jonny Buckland on guitar, Guy Berryman on bass and Will Champion on drums have mastered all the mechanics of pop songwriting, from the instrumental hook that announces nearly every song they've recorded to the reassurance of a chorus to the revitalizing contrast of a bridge. Their arrangements ascend and surge, measuring out the song's yearning and tension, cresting and easing back and then moving toward a chiming resolution. Coldplay is meticulously unified, and its songs have been rigorously cleared of anything that distracts from the musical drama.

    Unfortunately, all that sonic splendor orchestrates Mr. Martin's voice and lyrics. He places his melodies near the top of his range to sound more fragile, so the tunes straddle the break between his radiant tenor voice and his falsetto. As he hops between them - in what may be Coldplay's most annoying tic - he makes a sound somewhere between a yodel and a hiccup. And the lyrics can make me wish I didn't understand English. Coldplay's countless fans seem to take comfort when Mr. Martin sings lines like, "Is there anybody out there who / Is lost and hurt and lonely too," while a strummed acoustic guitar telegraphs his aching sincerity. Me, I hear a passive-aggressive blowhard, immoderately proud as he flaunts humility. "I feel low," he announces in the chorus of "Low," belied by the peak of a crescendo that couldn't be more triumphant about it.

    In its early days, Coldplay could easily be summed up as Radiohead minus Radiohead's beat, dissonance or arty subterfuge. Both bands looked to the overarching melodies of 1970's British rock and to the guitar dynamics of U2, and Mr. Martin had clearly heard both Bono's delivery and the way Radiohead's Thom Yorke stretched his voice to the creaking point.

    Unlike Radiohead, though, Coldplay had no interest in being oblique or barbed. From the beginning, Coldplay's songs topped majesty with moping: "We're sinking like stones," Mr. Martin proclaimed. Hardly alone among British rock bands as the 1990's ended, Coldplay could have been singing not only about private sorrows but also about the final sunset on the British empire: the old opulence meeting newly shrunken horizons. Coldplay's songs wallowed happily in their unhappiness.

    "Am I a part of the cure / Or am I part of the disease," Mr. Martin pondered in "Clocks" on "A Rush of Blood to the Head." Actually, he's contagious. Particularly in its native England, Coldplay has spawned a generation of one-word bands - Athlete, Embrace, Keane, Starsailor, Travis and Aqualung among them - that are more than eager to follow through on Coldplay's tremulous, ringing anthems of insecurity. The emulation is spreading overseas to bands like the Perishers from Sweden and the American band Blue Merle, which tries to be Coldplay unplugged.

    A band shouldn't necessarily be blamed for its imitators - ask the Cure or the Grateful Dead. But Coldplay follow-throughs are redundant; from the beginning, Coldplay has verged on self-parody. When he moans his verses, Mr. Martin can sound so sorry for himself that there's hardly room to sympathize for him, and when he's not mixing metaphors, he fearlessly slings clichés. "Are you lost or incomplete," Mr. Martin sings in "Talk," which won't be cited in any rhyming dictionaries. "Do you feel like a puzzle / you can't find your missing piece."

    Coldplay reached its musical zenith with the widely sampled piano arpeggios that open "Clocks": a passage that rings gladly and, as it descends the scale and switches from major to minor chords, turns incipiently mournful. Of course, it's followed by plaints: "Tides that I tried to swim against / Brought me down upon my knees."

    On "X&Y," Coldplay strives to carry the beauty of "Clocks" across an entire album - not least in its first single, "Speed of Sound," which isn't the only song on the album to borrow the "Clocks" drumbeat. The album is faultless to a fault, with instrumental tracks purged of any glimmer of human frailty. There is not an unconsidered or misplaced note on "X&Y," and every song (except the obligatory acoustic "hidden track" at the end, which is still by no means casual) takes place on a monumental soundstage.

    As Coldplay's recording budgets have grown, so have its reverberation times. On "X&Y," it plays as if it can already hear the songs echoing across the world. "Square One," which opens the album, actually begins with guitar notes hinting at the cosmic fanfare of "Also Sprach Zarathustra" (and "2001: A Space Odyssey"). Then Mr. Martin, never someone to evade the obvious, sings about "the space in which we're traveling."

    As a blockbuster band, Coldplay is now looking over its shoulder at titanic predecessors like U2, Pink Floyd and the Beatles, pilfering freely from all of them. It also looks to an older legacy; in many songs, organ chords resonate in the spaces around Mr. Martin's voice, insisting on churchly reverence.

    As Coldplay's music has grown more colossal, its lyrics have quietly made a shift on "X&Y." On previous albums, Mr. Martin sang mostly in the first person, confessing to private vulnerabilities. This time, he sings a lot about "you": a lover, a brother, a random acquaintance. He has a lot of pronouncements and advice for all of them: "You just want somebody listening to what you say," and "Every step that you take could be your biggest mistake," and "Maybe you'll get what you wanted, maybe you'll stumble upon it" and "You don't have to be alone." It's supposed to be compassionate, empathetic, magnanimous, inspirational. But when the music swells up once more with tremolo guitars and chiming keyboards, and Mr. Martin's voice breaks for the umpteenth time, it sounds like hokum to me.
     
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    domfjbrown live & breathe psy-trance

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    ...and I thought it was just me who thought they were overrated (I have "Parachutes", but never did like "Blood to head"...
     
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    Joe

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    I've only ever heard one of their songs, and that was (more than) enough.
     
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    blakeaudio

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    probably just about sums it up....
     
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    lAmBoY Lothario and Libertine

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    I detest critics, especially music critics.

    What did he expect?

    If you buy a Mars bar, you get a Mars bar. If he wanted something insightful and thoughful with a touch of well written melancholy why doesnt he comment on any Natalie Merchant (or others of that ilk)?

    To slag off Coldplay for being too lightweight, too easy listening and too 'artisticaly dumbed down' is unfair.

    I for one dont particlularly like nor dislike Coldplay, but I now what to expect.

    He also slagged off Keane who are also better than most of the commercial dross coming out of the USA.
     
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    Uncle Ants In Recordeo Speramus

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    S'right ... he should have slagged them off for being drippy, wet, mumsy boys instead.
     
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    michaelab desafinado

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    FWIW I like "Rush of Blood to the Head" :)

    Michael.
     
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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    I liked Parachutes.

    A rush of blood was ok in parts, a bit of a curates egg I thought.

    Will be interested to see what they do with albums 4 and 5 - to see if they change the formulae (hopefully - I'd like to see a change by then)
     
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    joel Shaman of Signals

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    While I find Coldplay execrable, that article is also a load of bollocks, from beginning to end.
    Where are the "music critics" who actually know something about music?
    Oops, I forgot, there aren't any.
     
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    I've had my Vinyl copy of X&Y on order from Amazon for a few weeks now and am quite looking forward to it. A Rush of Blood to the head is also another disk that regularly see's my record players stylus.

    A bit of polished rock/pop never hurt anyone. I've also read that some folks think that Coldplys albums are badly recorded. I reckon that certain tracks on AROBTTH have got space and atmosphre in spadefulls.

    Radiohead, I've got all of their albums some on both Vinyl and CD The Bends surely is a sountrack to slit your wrist too....

    A always Horses for courses........
     
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    Will The Lucky One

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    Not a fan of coldplay at all here, but that article is bollocks really, doesn't actually say a whole lot that makes any sense, and some things don't seem correct at all to me.

    Err weren't Travis around before Coldplay? :rolleyes:
     
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    And Embrace were.

    I agree it is a poor article. At the end of the day, people are buying it because it sounds like other Coldplay songs. It is selling like hot cakes. It is giving fans what they want. It's keeping EMI shareholders happy.

    Coldplay, like a lot of artists, have a sound. If the record buying public like it, what's the problem?

    SCIDB
     
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    Mr.C

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    Compare the first two albums (have you got both on LP?) and the first is clearly an analogue recording (natural), and sounds great, but the second sounds very heavily processed/digitised and subsequently is a bit unpleasant on the ear at times, and sounds far more compressed too.
     
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    Being a Dj you get a copy then SCIDB. I have the cold play albums but found the more i listened i began not dislike them. Dont most song writers steal off other bands?
     
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    SCIDB Moderator

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    Hi Gazz,

    Didn't get sent this album. Maybe because it was going to be a proven big seller. It varies quite alot the stuff I get sent. If it's a new band I may get sent some items by them.

    I have to be honest, I don't own any Coldplay items.

    SCIDB
     
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    GAZZ

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    I still can't get over the amount of cd's you own, it is your job though. Where do you keep them all SCIDB
     
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    fell asleep listening to x&y today. q 5 stars ? really ? and i was so looking 4ward to it.

    wont play in my portable cd player, having a go with eac to rip the wavs and make a "proper" redbook cd.

    anyone know if emi are doing replacement "real" cd's ?
     
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    wadia-miester Mighty Rearranger

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    3 star at best, and its just coldplay again, like someone said if you like the coldplay sound buy Keane they same but better imho
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    Coldplay are shit.

    The article is too long-winded by far. Why discuss it?
     
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    MO! MOnkey`ead!

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    Coldplay are ok at what they do. Just that they do it over and over.

    Keane...... I just don't get. Completely passive boring wank
     
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