Crowzier get 2m

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    Adam Crowzier, all round useless twat, get 2million bonus, whilst the rest of the post office employees get £1000.

    All for shutting our post offices and delivering the post late at 12 o clock, whilst axing 33,000 jobs.

    he was a wanker at the football league.

    hope he rots in hell for all of 10 mins.
     
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    mick parry stroppy old git

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    Sir

    What would you have done in his position.

    I would be most interested to hear how you would have turned a daily loss of £1.5m into a profit of £2m.

    We await your commercial pearls of wisdom with baited breath.

    Regards

    Mick
     
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    He got loads of stick when the P.O. was underperforming and losing millions. He turns it around and..... he gets loads of stick.

    Welcome to Great Britain - we love kicking people when they are down and hate success.

    Matt.
     
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    Retiring Mick obviously made a huge difference to the balance sheet.
     
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    mick parry stroppy old git

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    Lt Cdr Data

    We are waiting for your business plan.
     
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    sack the board, get subsidy as these unviable companies have to have, and support people who need jobs rather than useless twats who drink coffee, sack 33,000 shut our post offices and get £2million just for that.
    sacking the board would save millions alone, the workers run the company, sometimes better tahn when the management are around, that's indisputable.

    Executives guide to making a profit...
    sack the workers
    close the branches
    find cheap ways of doing things whilst old people suffer.
    put useless evil wankers in the top positions who do this sort of thing.

    how's that for starters?

    When you are decrepid and can't walk and can't drive, Mick, see how you like your shops closing and not being able to post a letter and get your taxpayer subsidised cash. Crowzier can get his chauffer, may maggots come out of his eyeballs.

    Hope Maggie pops her clogs soon, I will piss on her grave :D
     
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    mick parry stroppy old git

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    That really was a total cop out.

    You need to get a brain and fast.
     
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    You can be incredibly narrow minded sometimes Mick, somtimes you say some good things, sometimes less so, I think sometimes you can be out of touch.
    it doesn't take a brain to sack 33000 and close p'os.
     
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    mick parry stroppy old git

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    Ok

    Let us do this slowly.

    Who are these 33000 sacked people.

    Not one person was sacked, they were all volunteers.

    You still haven't said what you would have done in his shoes.

    So lets hear what you would have done if you had inherited a daily loss of £1.5m.

    Regards

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    can't tell you, you will have to pay me £2,000,000 bonus, and give a team of advisors and finance directors, chauffer, share options, only then will I committ to a fully informed decision based upon the parameters chinless wonder had.
    Its an executive decision
    signing off
     
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    Bob McC living the life of Riley

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    So how did old people who couldn't walk or drive get their cash before the changes?

    Bob
     
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    mick parry stroppy old git

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    You obviously need helping out.

    Let us examine your last paragraph of managerial wisdom.

    "When you are decrepid and can't walk and can't drive, Mick, see how you like your shops closing and not being able to post a letter and get your taxpayer subsidised cash. Crowzier can get his chauffer, may maggots come out of his eyeballs."

    I will answer each point for you.

    "When you are decrepid and can't walk and can't drive, Mick, see how you like your shops closing

    He has not shut any shops. He closed down sub PO's that were not being used. The people who use sub PO's are pensioners who do not have bank accounts and the stark reality is that they are dying off. The PO's are shut because no one used them. The PO is actually opening new ones in places like large supermarkets where there is a demand. The average person bought a book of stamps once every nine weeks in the PO's that were being closed. Most pensioners now have their pensions paid directly into their bank accounts by edict of the Government. So you tell me how you can justify keeping a PO like that open.

    Next daft point..."and not being able to post a letter

    There are more pillar boxes today than ever before, so it is easier to post a letter than ever before.

    Next load of waffle.........and get your taxpayer subsidised cash.

    The Post Office has not received a penny in subsidy for over 29 years. Even when it was making a loss, it still paid a fixed sum of taxation to the Government.

    You really must learn to engage your brain a bit more often.

    I cannot offer any suggestion about the maggots.

    You still have not said what you would have done in Croziers place.

    Regards

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    Mick without this coming to insults, I don't wish it to as I am civilized and polite and we are all friends here I hope, with respect, you are talking out of your arse, 3 post offices within a few miles of me have closed down lately.
    My own one, and the rest of them as a matter of fact, was doing quite well(there was a huge outcry and petitions running to 1000s of signatures,phone ins, appeals, and guess what??, noone took notice, they evidently got chucked in the bin as they had decided in advance they would close them and just went through the motions for the 'consultation' apparently, too, young mangers walked the area but that's bullshit, too, as its too far to walk to the next one, even for someone young, so they are full of lies and bullshit) I know how they work.

    ( as you have guessed, I feel extremely strongly when disadvantaged people are taken the mickey by corporate execs who drink coffee all day and get millions for shafting them)

    They are not dying off, you will be one one day, I will be, there are many here, they started the direct payment so they could close the p'o's but I get some cash from a p.o account and won't let the ***** do that, one of them on the fone even asked me why I didn't want it in the bank, none of their effin business.The people hate the card swipe too.

    As to more post boxes, I don't see anymore, where are your figures?, locations? and I post lots of things , you still have to get your post bits and stamps and weigh parcels, too.
    you can be very ignorant.

    , there were longish queues at the closed one everyday, now the nearest one is considerably further, and now there are unbelievable queues, the people who fraternise it don't like it, neither do the counter staff.
    The post offices were doing fine, however in the infinite wisdom of the pricks that make the decisions, they seem to think to pay crowzier his bonus, they can shut our treasured assets.
    they were being well used. I have no idea where you got the idea that they were tiny stamp sellers, do you actually use the po to do anything regularly? like I said you can be narrow minded, and by the looks of things severly misinformed.
    I hold my hands up when wronged, I am not Afaik on this one.

    Like I said, I won't say unless I am appointed chief exec. with all the info to hand and a salary to make that decision, that's fair?

    like I said, may he rot in hell, he would be first up again the wall, no that's not good enuff, the electric chair, I would pull the lever myself, and I am really signing off now, as I have said too much.

    I have just found this quote...what's worse torturing crozier or mass poisoning millions?

    quote:
    The only way to stop AIDs is to dose the water supply with bromide.

    Regards

    Mick

    I am being a tad reactionary and perhaps a tad tongue in cheek.I suspect your right wingism is more serious.

    kind regards and buddha peace :)
     
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    mick parry stroppy old git

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    I shall allow the other forum members judge whether or not you have answered the question, what would you have done in Croziers place.

    You have made false statements such that he sacked 33,000 people, he did not, they all resigned. I should know, I was one of them.

    The main core of sub PO business is dealing with people who do not have bank accounts. They are reducing in numbers, even the Regulator accepted that fact. The closures had to happen or the only alternative was for the tax payer to subsidise them which was something the Government would not permit. Times change and the need for small Post Offices is reducing.

    The level of mail is now over 84m letters a day which is a record. The PO does not reduce the number of pillar boxes when volumes are rising.

    The real threat has yet to come and that is when full deregulation will happen in 2007. The PO will then without any doubt lose enormous amounts of money. The most conservative estimate is £3m per day. This is because the new competitors will be allowed by law to use the PO's sorting system and only pay 11 pence per letter. That will loose the PO at least 2 p per letter.

    I have the advantage over you in that I held a fairly senior post in the business for 22 years, so unlike you, I know what I am talking about.

    I am using facts, you used conjecture and it showed.

    Regards

    Mick
     
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    Bob McC living the life of Riley

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    "The people hate the card swipe too"
    most of them will be dead soon.
    I found the whining of old people who didn't want pensions paid into bank accounts but expected the rest of the tax paying public to subsidise their continuing use of a payment system that cost a fortune typically selfish of them. I would have been quite happy for them to have kept the old payment system if they had paid a levy out of their pension to payfor it but then we'd have been regaled with the usual "I've paid in all my life, I'm entitled etc, etc, etc"

    This one of those rare occasions where I'm in full agreement with Mick.

    Bob

    Bob
     
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    TonyL Club Krautrock Plinque

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    This is the same in a hell of a lot of places. When looking to relocate recently I had to rule an awful lot of places out as the local Post Office had either closed or was likely to in the near future (I mail a lot of records so need a post office within walking distance – I usually end up there three or four times a week and I'm buggered if I'm getting a bus just to post some records).

    IMHO the whole thing is arse about face – the postal charges are too cheap and for some reason I don't remotely understand are capped – just a couple of pence on the postage rates would have turned the situation around without needing to close the local post office branches and no one would have complained – I certainly wouldn't and I'm a very good customer.

    Tony.
     
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    Philip King Enlightened User

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    I'd say UK postage charges are way too cheap! its more cost effective to send my Swedish Christmas cards from the UK to Sweden via air mail than to post them internally over here.
     
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    He deserves every penny.

    Business was making a loss.
    Business now achieving performance targets and now making profit.

    That equates to a performaance realted bonus,thats not hard to understand.

    Even the unions acknowledge the turn around.Gone are the days when employees of state run monopolies had a job for life (which is a shame,admittedly),the PO has to operate in a competetive market and Crozier did what many others have failed to do.

    As has Justin King,as did Philip Green.

    Mr Data,would you prefer Crozier ****ed up as badly as John Towers and 30,00 employees left with nowt? they didn't they voluntarily walked away with a pay off and the remaining employees copped a bonus and some form of job security by working for a successful company.

    You live in a time warp I think,somewhere in the seventies I politley suggest.

    Also,I think post is bloody incredible vfm.If someone said it would cost a quid to get my little letter to the otherside of the country i would say,hurrah! I believe it costs this amount or somewhere near in some countries.Why on earth we bleat about anything that cost a piffling 30p is beyond me.
     
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    Great quote, not sure Adam will use it at AGM but still............
     
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    Thanks SAAB for composing the reply i had in my head but got distracted before writing. Seconded.
     
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