Digital war

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    what do you think about this format?
    do you know what will be happen to digital?
     
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    Which format?
    Digital is overwhelmingly the majority of the market. That won't change.
     
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    Yes its going to keep getting better as we have more storage space and higher sampling rates.
     
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    SACD, CD Audio, HDCD, DVD Audio

    i think digital need a simple(for simple hardware) but effective coding for recording on DVD.
    after listenning to 16bit digital in 3 years i think spending so on digital is not logical.
    maybe a car like 206(T5) gave you more energy than listenning to linn sondek cdplayer (20000$). i think no thing is like hi-fi to me but 16 bit digital can not satisfy me.
     
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    Which one though? Some will live, some will not.
     
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    They're ultimately all doomed really.
     
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    i agree
     
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    That's what they said about vinyl.

    However, digital is interesting in that it's not media-specific. 16/44.1 stored on a CD is the same as 16/44.1 stored on a hard disk is the same as 16/44.1 stored on anything else. While you have variations on a theme (DAT 16/48, HDCD 20/44.1, DVD-A 24/96(192), etc), PCM is highly portable. DSD would appear to be going the way of the dodo.

    The upshot of that lot is, of course, that although a specific digital medium might see its demise (DCC already did, MD is well on its way, CD might but not for a while yet) the music stored on it can be moved to any other PCM system of similar or better spec.
     
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    Buy a decent CD player, Amir, or if you really think DVD-A/SACD are worth having a decent universal player with a seperate DAC that will make the most of the CDs you already have, plus any DVD-A/SACDs you might buy in the future. If you like classical music there are plenty of SACDs on the market, MUCH less if you like rock.

    Paul
     
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    i think universal players are not highend. every component should just do one thing.
     
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    Not sure that really compares though, as you say, digital stuff is easy to port (DSOTM!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: ) but also vinyl was an engineering thing where as digital gear is a problem of storage space and processing speeds. Both are increasing quite rapidly which means digital stuff can continually move forward in a way vinyl can't.
     
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    I think your wrong :D ;)
     
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    i'm wrong if player use separte boards for all DAC section
     
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    Amir

    But all SACD and DVD-A players play CDs too - so they're doing more than one thing...

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    Why would you want to do that?
     
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    clean signal path
     
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    Having seperate DACs for each format doesn't do that. It means you have to have 3 clocks and all sorts. Cause no end of problems. Unless I've misunderstood what you were saying, I assumed you meant in the same box. If not can you explain more?
     
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    i have little experience but now companies know they should make one component

    Accuphase DP85
    Accuphase DC101
    Krell SACD

    in all cd playback was not good
     
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    That doesn't mean no one can make a good universal player. They're only conning you into buying a load more stuff off them. Extracting audio from CD, SACD and DVDA isn't THAT different. And neither is the conversion process really as long as you don't mind upsampling and sigma/delta on CD which I personally don't.
     
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    How long will it take for someone to jump in and say "Amir, we all know you're loaded, just buy something butch and heavyweight from Krell/ML/Classe etc etc and get listening". Or a decent, mid-range CD player, spend the several thousand you save on records, and wait for things to become clear before you buy a megabucks machine. Oh golly. I just did it.

    Paul
     
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