Tenson, I think ;y;ou are right in a lot of the things you are saying, to actually change things and find out can be a real chore, with settings over different places and the reminders always popping up, even if you turn some off, more appear. But apart from the niggles, it is v stable, I had a nitemare with 98se, it was always crahsing, this virtaully never does, tho I have had to reinstall about 3-4 times due to downloaded s'ware causing os instability, just don't dowload crappy web programs. It is still a muddle in bits and needs sorting more tho'. Anyone know any good books which actually tell you how to get inside and do things? rahter just than the crappy dummies type books? would the mcse things help understand the thing?