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The thing is, there are many clever kids in schools. There always have been and will be. The clever kids will still pass the exams, it's just that exams are easier and more people will past them.

I don't thinks kids are more streetwise at all today.

There is nothing wrong with written work and assignments. It depends on the topics and depth covered.

Pupils do need a varied education to allow them to meet todays and tomorrows life. Things are changing as many employers and businesses are getting involved with schools.

But has happen for a number of years. Different governments and educations ministers have had different ideas on education. Things will always changed.

This is not fully true. Certain books can be allowed but these are not the usual text boxes. People still have to answers the questions. It's just that some of the formats for answers are more user friendly.

Any government with increasing results will crow about them. You can have a go at Blair for a lot of thing but a number of school were failing badly under the Torys. There has always been big problems in education. Many schools were going down hill rapidly. Also schools are not equal. For years a large number were in poor condition, badly designed with bad teachers.

Just look at some of the results of some of the inner city schools and deprived area schools over the years. Just look at the results of private and posh area schools. They can vary widly.

I very much agree it is a complex issue and it's not easy to solve. I do think a number of schools have made great inroads in good education.

I wasn't either. We didn't have latin at our school. I didn't do history because I prefered to do other things. Why do you feel it's was dumbed down? At the end of the day, school can't teach everything. They never could. At the end of the 3rd year (year 9), you choose subjects to study. You are at the mercy of what the school offers. This will be governed by the size of the school, size of staff, facillities on offer, number of pupils.

There are not enough hours in the day.

Middle class people have always done well in education. A lot of them go to better schools that push the pupils to aim higher in life. This has always happened.

Every government will change the emphasis of education.

If every one was clever, the cleverer people will get the better jobs. The downside of a lot of people getting degrees is that there are not the graduate jobs for them. If 50% of population gets degrees, 50% of the vaccancies will not require a degree. To be truth, a lot of jobs don't require a degree. It just that companies just ask for one.

I know a number of people with degrees in postions that didn't require a degree. They got the jobs on personal qualities. A degree can help to develop these but not always.,

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<blockquote data-quote="SCIDB" data-source="post: 590858" data-attributes="member: 1013">HiThe thing is, there are many clever kids in schools. There always have been and will be. The clever kids will still pass the exams, it's just that exams are easier and more people will past them.I don't thinks kids are more streetwise at all today. There is nothing wrong with written work and assignments. It depends on the topics and depth covered.Pupils do need a varied education to allow them to meet todays and tomorrows life. Things are changing as many employers and businesses are getting involved with schools.But has happen for a number of years. Different governments and educations ministers have had different ideas on education. Things will always changed.This is not fully true. Certain books can be allowed but these are not the usual text boxes. People still have to answers the questions. It's just that some of the formats for answers are more user friendly.Any government with increasing results will crow about them. You can have a go at Blair for a lot of thing but a number of school were failing badly under the Torys. There has always been big problems in education. Many schools were going down hill rapidly.&nbsp; Also schools are not equal. For years a large number were in poor condition, badly designed with bad teachers.Just look at some of the results of some of the inner city schools and deprived area schools over the years.&nbsp; Just look at the results of private and posh area schools. They can vary widly.I very much agree it is a complex issue and it's not easy to solve. I do think a number of schools have made great inroads in good education.I wasn't either. We didn't have latin at our school.&nbsp; I didn't do history because I prefered to do other things. Why do you feel it's was dumbed down? At the end of the day, school can't teach everything. They never could.&nbsp; At the end of the 3rd year (year 9), you choose subjects to study. You are at the mercy of what the school offers. This will be governed by the size of the school, size of staff, facillities on offer, number of pupils. There are not enough hours in the day.Middle class people have always done well in education.&nbsp; A lot of them go to better schools that push the pupils to aim higher in life. This has always happened. Every government will change the emphasis of education. If every one was clever, the cleverer people will get the better jobs. The downside of&nbsp; a lot of people getting degrees is that there are not the graduate jobs for them. If 50% of population gets degrees, 50% of the vaccancies will not require a degree. To be truth, a lot of jobs don't require a degree. It just that companies just ask for one.I know a number of people with degrees in postions that didn't require a degree. They got the jobs on personal qualities. A degree can help to develop these but not always.,SCIDB</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SCIDB, post: 590858, member: 1013"] Hi The thing is, there are many clever kids in schools. There always have been and will be. The clever kids will still pass the exams, it's just that exams are easier and more people will past them. I don't thinks kids are more streetwise at all today. There is nothing wrong with written work and assignments. It depends on the topics and depth covered. Pupils do need a varied education to allow them to meet todays and tomorrows life. Things are changing as many employers and businesses are getting involved with schools. But has happen for a number of years. Different governments and educations ministers have had different ideas on education. Things will always changed. This is not fully true. Certain books can be allowed but these are not the usual text boxes. People still have to answers the questions. It's just that some of the formats for answers are more user friendly. Any government with increasing results will crow about them. You can have a go at Blair for a lot of thing but a number of school were failing badly under the Torys. There has always been big problems in education. Many schools were going down hill rapidly. Also schools are not equal. For years a large number were in poor condition, badly designed with bad teachers. Just look at some of the results of some of the inner city schools and deprived area schools over the years. Just look at the results of private and posh area schools. They can vary widly. I very much agree it is a complex issue and it's not easy to solve. I do think a number of schools have made great inroads in good education. I wasn't either. We didn't have latin at our school. I didn't do history because I prefered to do other things. Why do you feel it's was dumbed down? At the end of the day, school can't teach everything. They never could. At the end of the 3rd year (year 9), you choose subjects to study. You are at the mercy of what the school offers. This will be governed by the size of the school, size of staff, facillities on offer, number of pupils. There are not enough hours in the day. Middle class people have always done well in education. A lot of them go to better schools that push the pupils to aim higher in life. This has always happened. Every government will change the emphasis of education. If every one was clever, the cleverer people will get the better jobs. The downside of a lot of people getting degrees is that there are not the graduate jobs for them. If 50% of population gets degrees, 50% of the vaccancies will not require a degree. To be truth, a lot of jobs don't require a degree. It just that companies just ask for one. I know a number of people with degrees in postions that didn't require a degree. They got the jobs on personal qualities. A degree can help to develop these but not always., SCIDB [/QUOTE]

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