i've just discovered another couple of things by this prolific gent... Flock of Bleeps by younger brother [URL=http://www.psynews.org/reviews/CHI00158.htm]HERE[/URL] and a shpongle remix album. [URL=http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000BV1EM/ref=pd_thx_sims_2/202-1669279-5598220?%5Fencoding=UTF8]HERE[/URL] i've ordered flock of bleeps so hopefully it'll be here tuesday and i'll report back on it. the shpongle remix will have to wait as my cd budget for the month is blown. if anyone takes a punt let me know what it's like. cheers julian