Firefox, just showing off!

Just downloaded the latest verison of firefox for OSX, this thing is so damned fast it nearly loads the page before I press the button, very impressive.

I also like the icons. seems more stable as well. All in all worth the download.

 

One day, it might not crash, and it might render pages correctly!

 

Is that firefox 0.9 RC 1

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/0.9rc/ if anyones interested

 

Paul, it's porn site overload that's doing it m8

It's never crashed for me.

 

it is indeed the dogs danglies, but i'm not ready to switch from Safari just yet

 

I've never had a crash either. Unlike the gazillion times IE6 has crashed on me!

 

Garyi, just think how fast it would be on one of these

Auric

 

Auric, me and my little under table pal are a little jealous of the new range, but i'll scrape by!

 

IE6 hasnt crashed on me for years. Must be your computer All the other browsers, are less stable than IE, and IE is the only one that can render every page correctly. Until Firefox can do all that, it will never beckon my PC again.

Actually as well I've noticed they have a new interface style for Firefox, new icons and whatnot. They looked pretty awful too, IMO.

 

I find firefox damned good actually, never had it crash, unlike IE, which seems to be about the only thing that ever crashes on this PC...

If we're going to criticise firefox for not rendering pages properly, do we criticise developers who write pages that only work properly in IE, and also criticise IE for ignoring a few standards and displaying things oddly? One can criticise either way in fairness I think

 

I use IE6 here and at work, and it never crashes. Like I said, could be your PC

Nope. IE renders everything correctly. And since 90% of the world uses IE, they should be making the other browsers comply, not the other way around. I'm of the opinion that since IE renders all pages correctly, then it does actually follow the standards, and one must admit now that IE has long since won the browser wars, for rivals to kill IE's advantage, they should be making sure their browsers handle pages properly, otherwise people like myself, and your average joe on the street, simply wont bother with it. FWIW, IE6 has never displayed anything odd on this screen, and despite me using it a lot longer than any other browser I have tried, it has always crashed a lot less than other browsers. The only thing I can criticise about it, is that it is now beginning to lack features, but nothing that cant be added later. It sure is fashionable to bash MS, but the fact is, their products work for me.

 

I've never had Firefox crash on me whereas I've had a number (not loads) of problems and crashes with IE6. Firefox is easily the most stable browser out there - if it crashes for you...must be your computer

There are a handful of web designers who can't follow standards and the result is a tiny minority of web pages that don't render correctly in Firefox, but the problem really is miniscule. The much larger problem is dickheads who put browser checking Javascript into their pages and then disable features of a site (or the entire site) because Firefox isn't a browser they've coded for :inferno: . I believe you can make Firefox masquerade as IE6 to get around that problem though. "your browser is not compatible with this site" ....oh yes it is matey boy :MILD:

And apart from the improved stability and speed over IE6 Firefox is just so much nicer to use.

Michael.

 

IE6 loads instantly and responds very quickly. Cant be any faster TBH, Firefox definitely slower. Good reason for that too - IE6 is built into the OS, which allows it to load quicker, and the reponse times are as good as anything to me.

All the other browsers I've tried crash not only here but at work, but IE6 has relatively few problems. Not my computer mate, my computer is very, very, very stable. Then again, if all you do is go on hifi forums, then I suspect firefox will be stable

Face it, 90% of computer users cant all be wrong

 

More like 90% if users cant be bothered to get of their arses and try something other than microsoft, even if the alternatives are better.

 

must say i've never had a problem with ie either. not tried ffox mainly due to the reason robbo points out but also if it ain't broke - don't fix it...
cheers


julian

 

Not strictly true in every case. I am one of those 90% and I have tried all of the other browsers - Firefox, Opera, Avant, Mozilla, MyIE. To be honest, out of all those, I'd say Opera whoops Firefox without a doubt, its got more features, looks prettier and is faster, but that also cant render pages properly.

ANything that does not work 100% of the time is useless to me.

 

That would be IE6 and Windows then

Michael.

 

Michael, this is what you need :-

http://www.texturizer.net/firefox/extensions/#firesomething

or this :-

http://www.chrispederick.com/work/firefox/useragentswitcher/

You might have noticed loads hits from me with odd browser names

 

But that's a bollox comparison. It's like saying I can run 100m faster than you if I have 50m head start

FireFox may be slower to load without the monopolistic (and probably illegal in terms of competition law) advantage that IE6 has but once it's up and running it will show IE6 a clean pair of heels on any page you care to mention. It might not be that much faster overall but the way it renders as much of the page as it can as soon as it gets it instead of waiting until it's all loaded like IE it certainly gives you a much faster user experience.

Oh btw, that 90% of computer uses thing is bollox too. 90% of users don't really have a choice or aren't aware they have one so they just toe the Microsoft line. One of the main reasons why MS bundling things like IE with the OS is anti-competetive and why they're facing a massive fine from the EU. They would have faced stiffer penalties in the US on the same issue if the judges hadn't been so limp wristed and wimped out.

Michael.

 

I've never found page loads to be all that slow on IE, I grant you it may be a little slower in that respect, but I'd sooner have the 100% rendering reliability of IE. If it works, dont fix it.

Granted, some may not have a choice, those in corporations and such like. We use a lot of web apps [at work] and would not rely on a flakey browser like Firefox that needs constant updating, and what would probably fail to run some of the applications. They really need to work on this aspect IMO, if its to even stand a chance of taking over - I still dont think it will.

Also, BTW, I think the whole anti-competitive thing is a load of bollox as well. They are business who want to compete for a large market share. They have probably pulled their fair share of dirty tricks, but company rivalry is like war, and they are simply better at it than their competitors. They have the temerity to offer utilities like web browsers in its operating system (which, I might add they did in 1995 with Windows 95, and I dont remember people complaining then - only with the implementation of IE4 did people start complaining about that). Little features that were integrated into the OS, and hardly a big deal. At no time did they stop their users installing alternative browsers on the machine. Yet, operating systems like Linux and Mac OS X offer these utilities in their Operating System, and nobody complains about them. IMO its nothing more than mindless and groundless bias against MS, because it genuinely seems to be the "in thing" for computer folks to do this.