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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    Hi Zanash

    I don't feel ZG is the same forum it was a couple of years ago.

    I feel it is a better forum than it was a couple of years ago.

    I see a lot more self restraint, a lot more ''understanding that people will have a polar opposite opinion and accepting it''

    A lot less name calling, a lot less hot-headedness, and best of all (IMO) a lot more 'lets find out' rather than 'yes it does' 'no it doesnt' etc

    Great ! :)
     
    bottleneck, Sep 21, 2009
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    mr cat Member of the month

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    I love ZG - it's still my homepage...and has been for years...! :)

    tho, there is less banter etc than some other forums...
     
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    Tim F

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    I find everyone argues too much! There are some seriously cool hifi ppl on here though Zantash, WadiaMeister, Bottleneck to name a few. Shame really as I seem to be drifting over to the mid-fi infested wigwam!

    Just noticed how out of date my kit list is too!
     
    Tim F, Sep 22, 2009
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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    Drift back Tim !

    :) start with a new thread on the new equipment you've bought, and why you changed to it.

    There you go, easy :D

    lol
     
    bottleneck, Sep 22, 2009
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    sq225917 Exposer of Foo

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    Zg needs a USP, a singular reason why people come here rather than somewhere else, something that ZG'ers do for each other than separates us from the other forums.
     
    sq225917, Sep 22, 2009
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    Corruption

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    I visit ZG because there seems to be a small but dedicated following, the people that post here seem to be honest with their opinions without it degenerating into name-calling, and there aren't too many fanboys of one particular manufacturer. The smallish user base also means that there aren't too many threads to sift through for interesting topics if I don't happen to show up here for a week or two...

    Long live ZG!
     
    Corruption, Sep 22, 2009
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    YNMOAN Trade - AudioFlat

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    Well, I guess that's one way of looking at it.
     
    YNMOAN, Sep 22, 2009
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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    right now, at this very second we have -

    Currently Active Users: 86 (24 members and 62 guests)

    We need (IMO) to encourage:

    1) pro-active interesting threads by members
    2) creating a welcoming place where guests will want to join in and start their own interesting topics for conversation.

    from 'the music section' to the general forum there's a place where anyone can do that IMO.
     
    bottleneck, Sep 22, 2009
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    amazingtrade Mad Madchestoh fan

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    I am not sure why I still come in here as this site is mainly a high end forum. My stuff is not high end but I guess the hobby is the same. This is the oldest forum I post on and I think that is what keeps me here its mostly the same old 2003 Pinkfish and HIFI Choice crowd.

    I also like the people on here too.
     
    amazingtrade, Sep 22, 2009
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    RobHolt Moderator

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    Agreed.

    I've returned from two days visiting Tony L in the frozen Northern wastelands listening to a great system. I'll write up the experience over the next few days. Lots of pics :)

    I've also now got around 10 tubes for our virtual ECC83 bake so that will also be appearing soon.

    On Simon's point of a forum USP - well expect lots more science and real, rational explanations as to why audible differences exist.
    A science based forum doesn't exist at the moment IMO, I'm avoiding the word 'objectivist' as that doesn't really quantify what I mean. In short, less foo and more fact but certainly not a glorified technical repair talking shop.

    Let me give you an example.
    Look at the way forums have handled Mana.
    Mana is great, Mana is crap, you can't set it up, your a prat, it cannot possibly work, it works by magic, it channels energy form magnetic North into the system, Mana owners are all deaf idiots, it rings like a bell, nothing else works, only works with a spliff ...... and so on forever and ever, Amen.
    Gets us precisely where?
    Nowhere at all.
    So what if we actually attempted to measure the Mana effect on a source component - actually show on screen that the stuff makes a difference to the signal coming from your TT, or the the amount of vibration reaching the floor. Perhaps then reference that to the same items on a £20 Ikea coffee table.
    Nobody is doing this stuff or talking about it. We can.

    Things are already moving and all indicators are up - the place is already busier and I know that many of us who remember the old days have no intention of letting ZG fade away.
    It aint gonna happen.
     
    RobHolt, Sep 23, 2009
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    RobHolt Moderator

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    Don't be put off by not having high end kit.
    In fact, there you go - a perfect theme for a thread.
    There are loads of great bargains out there and some of the modestly priced kit is more than capable of challenging or even surpassing some of what passes for high end. So tell everyone about it, make recommendations, start a 'Best Buy' list, whatever you want.

    Don't hold back.
     
    RobHolt, Sep 23, 2009
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    Stuart

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    Excellent! Things sound different for reasons other than magic. Investigating the 'why' of system performance can only be a good thing, and help us all find a clearer path to the results we may be looking for.

    Looking forward to the new direction.

    Regards,

    Stuart.
     
    Stuart, Sep 23, 2009
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    RobHolt Moderator

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    The current technics thread is another good example (bar the thread crapping).
    Rather than simply accept that a 1210 needs and benefits from a notionally 'better' external PSU, we are looking for tangible evidence and discussing what might be happening.

    In no way hard core objectivist, just questioning and investigative.
     
    RobHolt, Sep 23, 2009
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    felix part-time Horta

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    Excellent ;)
     
    felix, Sep 23, 2009
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    RobHolt Moderator

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    Other forums supporting the use of external PSUs are simply saying 'we think it sounds better' - end of story.
    Here the the possible reasons are being discussed, along with discussion of the effects of drag and dynamic wow, how the internal servo works (by Paul R) etc.
    We've also suggested ( and David Price seems to agree) that HFW attempt to compare the measurements taken for the motor units.
    Others have suggested some blind needledrops for the decks.

    Read it again Mark ;)
     
    RobHolt, Sep 23, 2009
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    RobHolt Moderator

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    Excellent - that is exactly what the place needs.
    Share your thoughts and ideas.
    Start a TT design thread even and bounce ideas around.
     
    RobHolt, Sep 23, 2009
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