Funny noises about LP12's coming from the Private ads section

Probably because barrow loads more LP12's have been sold than alternative high end decks over the past 25 years.

Just a thought.

 

a technodec is good ,but not that good. a gyro or orbe and sme v is a different league my friend

 

possible, but how many gyros ,pinks ,rocks,alphasons,regas have been sold then over the last 25 years then? probably far more regas than all of them put together.
they sound good so people only part with them when they give up vinyl, people part with their 5 grand linn's because they are unhappy with them. i was with mine i can asure you.

 

thats not my point, my point is your silver disc spinner is a weak link, in your system, in isolation the TT in your system will sound better to them, but had they heard my kit, they'd still think cd was better, and I have heard a gyro or two, and I still prefer my cdp.

 

when you pay 5 grand for a record deck you expect the best i should think, i know i did, and when you get it home and plug itin and you think to yourself oh s---t what have i done? you then get out an old rega p3 throw it on the floor. and it sounds about 5 times better than your 5 grand purchase, you loose sleep i can tell you.

 

fair play to you

 

but my old rega sounds better than the arcam or the pioneer.

 

linn

Rather than create a new high end deck linn took another strategy. They bumped up the price of the linn to high end prices. It used to be half the price of the gyrodeck and now it is over twice as much. The gyrodeck has also had more meaningful upgrades.

Linn / lingo / ekos / arkiva goes for what ... 6 grand? There is precious little market above that so why bother making another deck?

Vinyl front end is more expensive to get right. So source stll comes first. Most cdp sound the same so you might as well sink the cash into amp and speakers.

What arm and cart on your technodeck?

Stereo mic - yes more of them but that should be balanced by more demand. What is more important is not the number its the price 2nd hand to new and for linn the ratio is very low. Plus regars sold even more and you rarely see them in comparison to linn...

 

Rocksan tabriz zi shure v15vmxr and slee eragold v

Not all cdps sound the same though, some offer a lot of the supposed vinyl advantages, like liquid analoguelike sound, deep bass and 3d soundstage, perhaps some of you with expensive vinyl front ends haven't lived with a good enough cdp, comparing your several thousand pound TT's with a £1000 cdp or dvd player as you are under the impression that most cdps are similar.

Some of us sold most of our vinyl years ago and isn't worht investing too much in TT replay, me I like both, they are closer than folks like to admit, when comparing similar quality TT and similar quality cd, I reckon the differences are down to taste.

 

Hmm that arm should be good. Not sure about the shure though ;-) Try a different cartridge and a diablo phono stage or a microgroove plus. I havent heard the technodec but an OL aurora might be a step up. In what areas do you think the deck is lagging behind?

Some cdps are streets ahead as you say. I have heard cdps up to £30k or so. I have only heard 3 or 4 I could live with. The de capo is the best I have heard yet my deck thrashes it in every respect. However its £10k v £2k. A £2k deck / arm / cart would be much closer.

 

I'm trading my TT in, I will be TT less, may investigate in the future, have tried the cart with whest phonstage, and with the MM cart there wasn't anything in it, so PS fine, cart, well I suppose thats down to taste, TBH it's academic, as my whole rig will be traded in along with my current speakers, on a new pair of speakers.

IF i get a TT in future I fancy something a little more exotic thatn the gyro/orbe, but not sure i can justify the cost, we'll see.

 

That whest should beat the graham slee by a country mile. To me that suggests the cartridge is the limiting factor.

Fancy listening to my brinkmann?

What speakers are you getting and what will the rest of the rig be?

 

Nick don't be so quick to write of the era gold, the whest is more than twice the price, but is in fancier cases and does MM/MC to getslee to M/C staus requires the elavator XP, and puts it's price on a par with the whest, so with MM theres nothing in it between whest and slee, and cart is good, if not very loud, would like to hear the Brinkman, but TBH don't have a spare £10k and don't fancy travelling to the Smoke.

Rest of rig is Bow technologies Wizard 2 cdp, warlock pre and walrus power.

Speakers will be new ART Emotion Signatures

 

Last one eight years ago?

As I've said, its moved on a great deal.

M

 

AK,

Hi! I am not writing off the graham slee - its very good. But I think the whest is probably better. The slee is ultimately limited by the NE opamp used, if you change that to say ad8065 then you will get a big improvement. A lot of people swap the chip on this phono as it has a lot more to give. I am surprised you cant hear any difference between them as the Whest is meant to be of the same standard or better than the Groove.

What are the bows like?

 

Bows are stunning!!! but I'm biased, fell in love with their sound when I first heard them, for me nothing in their price range does all the things they do, YMMV

As for slee, well it's academic, Ive sold it with TT, incidentally the chap whose Whest it was agreed with me.

 

Wow! Are they at the hifi show?

Maybe the technodeck is the limitation then? How does the cdp sound better?

 

yep your right mike i'm sorry i jumped in to quick.

 

I doubt they are at the hifi show, Bow not a dealers best friend, do things their own way, in their own time.

CDP has more detail, better texture, bigger soundstage, just better, cdp very analoguelike.

 

Just to add the tecnodek is a fine TT, couple of vinyl owning friends were quite surprised at sound, but I just prefer my CDP, perhaps with an oracle or somesuch the results would be different, but I reckon differences will be more a taste thing,m than wether one is better than the other.