Funny noises about LP12's coming from the Private ads section

Mmm... I would be interested to check out the deck then.

 

nick is quite right work this one out then . playstation 2 ,vs arcam vs, pioneer868avi
the difference between all 3 is tiny. and yes most cd players sound the same, ih have tried linn cd12, rega planet, top of the range teac, and to be honest they sound so close to each other it does not seem worth the outlay

 

what the tecnodec?

 

Yeah, but you haven't tried other cdps?

some are similar I agree with you, but difference between a similar priced wadia or Krell is not insignificant, which one you prefer however is down to taste

 

mike how i am interested in your spec lp12. how is the surface noise? and does it suffer an sibilance near the end of the record?

 

Rudolph

I must admit I've not A/B'd my LP12 against its peers, but I am happy enough that the changes I've made to it over the years have moved it into another class of performer. Biggest improvements - Akiva, Lingo 2.

Ekos ( IMO ) is actually a fair bit better than the Ittock - deeper bass and nicer treble. Itas taken me some time to get to this point and I like what I hear - which is the main point really.

Regards

Mike

 

I have heard wadia and krell. Krell I thought offered little over a marantz - though to be fair it was some years ago. The wadia was probably good but the rest of the system - classe and b&W N800 0 was so poor I couldnt tell. I bought the decapo dac for £400 second hand and its as good as anything else I have heard so far.

Mike its all relative - yes the improvements make a difference but they still dont bring it up to the competition IMHO. My friend used a similair argument. He was going to buy an ekos and a lingo to update his ittock lp12 cirkus without listening to alternatives. I totted up what that would cost with the arm tradein then looked at a SY S8 which was about the same with the whole linn setup traded in. He was reluctant to look at alternatives as "linn couldnt be beaten" but I managed to persuade him that he had nothing to lose. The s8 made the linn sound like a dual 505 in the dem. He couldnt beleive it and became quite angry - he felt he had been conned. He now owns the yorke and has sold his entire linn / naim rig. He now has SY S8 with breuer arm and ortofon cartridge with MG+ phono, avi pre, bryston power and spendor s100. He spent hardly any money really and the system is on a whole higher level. Its easy to get tied in - you owe it to yourself to dem the alternatives some time.

 

Ah - makes sense now! I didn't actually notice that part (as it'd already been moved) - d'oh!

<removes size 12 foot from mouth (again!) and thinks "it's a good job I have a big gob!">

 

no i have not listened to many cd players granted ,but what i have listened to has not inspired me in the least. i think vinyl has a much different sound between players. an a 5 grand vinyl front end would be VERY VERY hard to beat with ANY cd player.

 

Rudolph

The last time I had unwarranted sibilance at the end of a side was when my Arkiv was knackered. I changed it to the Akiva which was a marked improvement.

I think there is a very slight loss of sound quality towards the end of some discs: this may be due to the lower rotational speed of the groove at the end of a side when compared to the rotational speed at the edge.

Surface noise is pretty low - but I'd need to A/B against other decks to say that its lower than average, although one of the points of the Akiva is that it is supposed to have a lower surface noise level than other cartridges. It is certainly lower than the old Arkiv.

Regards

Mike

 

mike fair play to you my friend if you have a sound you are happy with then you are very very lucky and i must congratulate you, and if it gives you enjoyment then you have cracked it.

 

Perhaps it would be better, but again it's a taste thing, tbh it's pointless me spending that much on a TT when I have at least 4 times the number of CDs than I do of vinyl

 

on my gyro sme v van den hul there is NO surface noise at all just the odd crack now and then, which i know is quite unusuall

 

I'll admit to some discomfort when I heard a Brinkmann .... Bloody hell, that sounds good...

A pal who has heard a fair few LP12s did say that he thought mine was the best sounding he'd heard, which was nice..

 

*I* can hear the difference, and I can't stand the Linn. Sorry. I know my Planar's easily beatable, but not by a Linn to my ears. A Xerxes, I've not heard, and I really want to - they look good too (he he!).

The main gripe I have with the Linn is needing all these band aids to make it work - wall shelf, power supply this and that, and all because the deck can't play at a stable speed if you move near it. Not all of us have the luxury of home ownership or solid floors.

 

you are right but some of us have a big collection and having a good deck utilizes this.
i would say if you have less than a 1000 records a 5 grand deck would be a waste of money

 

Mike - where did you hear the brinkmann and what was the setup? Try tolsiten to a yorke as well. If you like the linn you may prefer the yorke to the brinkmann.

 

forget the xerxes. aweful deck so bright, it can fry your eardrums from the moon.

 

Nick

In the Walrus room at Heathrow last year. I took some pics but they may have gone in a computer crash.

M

 

how much did your deck arm cartridge set you back nick?