Funny noises about LP12's coming from the Private ads section

Don't worry, Rudolph's postings actually make the LP12 look more desirable.

 

No problems - this is the best place to discuss this kind of stuff.

My LP12 is currently in counselling to get back some self-esteem

 

About 15 years ago I was the proud owner of a Pink Triangle PTTOO with Battery Power Supply, SMEIV Arm and a Stilton Bodied Audio Technica OC9 Cartridge. This played through an Audio Innovations Series 500 Amp with plug in Ortofon T5 Step Up Transformers as the Amp only had a MM stage.

When I got divorced I had to sell most of my Hi-Fi and therefore having a Nakamichi CR3 Cassette recorder I bought a load of TDK ARX and SA90 Cassettes and over the space of a month or so recorded my favourite vinyl as I was going to retain the Nakamichi at all cost.

I have now built up my Hi-Fi again and a couple of months ago picked up a mint Nakamichi CR7 off Ebay for €335, which after shipping and import duty cost me approx. €400.00.

Playing back the cassettes I recorded 15 years ago on the Nakamichi is the closest thing to heaven I have experienced in terms of sound quality in my system for years and years and completely leaves my current Project Classic Turntable and Tag McLaren CD way behind.

The adjustable azimuth on the CR7, allows the the ancient recordings to be played back to their optimum, which sound so natural, deatailed with a soundstage you could walk around.

People who have visited me since I acquired the CR7 are absolutely astounded to hear the humble old compact cassette creating such a stunning sound. Even my Wife has remarked how fantastic sounding a CD is not knowing its a tape.

Needless to say I've now got the bug to try and get hold of a Pink Triangle PTTOO, Export or Anniversary and partner this with either an SME or maybe Origin Live Silver Arm but I wonder if the old recordings will still sound better!

I've also recently picked up a Mint Nakamichi Cassette Deck 2 for £60 on ebay which I'm going to use at work with my Sonic T Amp!

Vinyl is certainly king for me, even at the moment if its via Cassette!

 

Did you know Arthur is making turntables again under the brand "funk firm"?

A good deck will beat the nakamichi.

 

I had a chance of getting a Dragon a few years ago for about £400 and passed on it as I was recording so rarely it didn't seem worth it.

One of those moments where I kick myself for being a total klutz - until recently I still had about 300 tapes recorded from radio sessions and live recordings from Radio3 - my friend who has a tape deck is now the very happy owner of these tapes.

Seeing the price some of these go for in dealers shop windows now, it really is one of the few hifi decisions I regret.

 

maybe he can resurrect the Tarentella (or how ever you spell it). The last deck I think PT made with the triangle plinth that glowed pink.

Was very good value at the price.

 

My bro has one. Yes it was exceptional and easily the equal of a top flight linn with an OL arm and ortofon kb fitted. I previously owned an export.

My understanding is that the tarentella and anniversary will be back along with a new drive system upgrade for both and an upgrade to update the pt, pt too and export to anniversary status. As well as two new decks the funk and the funkier. Plus maybe an "ultra" deck at some point in the future.

 

Since that deck came out look how many plinthless (or next to no plinth) decks followed.

He also made a very good integrated amp just before PT disappeared.

It's good to see a designer like that coming back into the fold.

 

A good deck will beat the nakamichi.[/QUOTE]

I'm not saying that a good turntable playing a record will not sound as good as a Nakamichi playing the record in cassette form, however, I think the likes of the CR7 could certainly give it a good run for its money on older analogue recordings.

However, I think my PTTOO recordings played on the CR7 would certainly beat any deck combination up to say £2-3k excluding phono stage, after all the equivalent price of the PTTOO combination in todays terms would be in excess of £4K!

My Project Classic 9c (Silver Rewired), Sumiko BPS Graham Slee Era Gold V doesn't even come close to the cassette versions taped on the CR3 and played on the CR7! however, I always found it very difficult to distinguish Source from Tape on anything taped on the CR3, you can't distinguish on the CR7!

 

Yup and also acrylic platters, dc motors etc.

 

Oh YESSSSS!!!! At last!

I dem'd my Planar 3 (buying second hand, with worn out (ish) Linn K5 cartridge) at the guy's house, then heard his Linn LP12/Ekos/Arkiv/phono stage(?? Linn-something - Linto?)/Linn amps/Isobariks, and the Planar 3 pissed all over it, at less than a 20th of the Linn price!

Of course, how much of this is down to the Rega's 1%-fast thing, I can't say, but I've NEVER got on with the LP12's lumpy bass and wow-y, jumpy suspension. I've heard TWO LP12s I could live with, but I'd not pay any money for them. I've heard a lot more that SUCK.

 

I dont know about a planar 3 but a p9 certainly will.

The linn is usually held to be fast in the same breath as the rega.

 

at last some one out there who talks sense i have an old planner 3 and had a top flight lp 12 and the planner eat it alive easily, you are dead right my friend dead right. even my friend bought round his technics slp1200 and thar destroyed my fully dealer set up linn, and i mean fully set up. i had the top man in rayleigh hifi do it

 

Never got on with Regas for some reason.

I demmed the Planar 3 years ago when I first went looking for vinyl and the Michell Mycro I subsequently bought was, imo, far superior.

A friend loves his planar 3 and wouldn't swap it for ANYTHING. Could be just me - maybe I like decks with bounce.

At a recent dealership my friend demmed a rega amp (can't remember which although it was their latest) with PMC speakers and after the Cyrus 6 he demmed before hand. During the demo the dealer asked if I was ok as I had a seriously pained look on my face apparently - much to the amusement of my mate - I didn't even realise I had, so much for my poker face.

 

no the planner is an is an ok deck you put it up against a pink, rock, orbe etc etc and they will walk all over the planner, so that tells you how much better thah them lp12's they are.

ask yourself one thing look on ebay and there are pages of lp12's. why? i'll tell you why they cannot get them to sound any good thats why

 

you know the 2 best decks under 2 grand, if you can get hold of one?

rock reference, and alphason symphony. awesome sounding, but i still like my gyro to me it's the best.

 

Not sure about not getting them to sound good.

I do know from chatting to a dealer that he gets (or used to get) a lot of LP12s in part ex for Michell decks especially the Gyro.

Sad fact as taken from Hifi World - back in the olde days a Gyro cost nearly double an LP12 now it is almost the other way around. The LP12 hasn't really had any serious evolution for a long while and has got more expensive the Gryo has continually evolved and got cheaper (if you see what I mean).

 

Yes I agree with you. People buy them and then are never really happy with them. I had one person telling me how the linn was unbeatable so I played him my deck. His face dropped and then within weeks the linn was gone. Now he kicks himself for buying it.

 

the lp12 is made of pressed steel and bloody mdf, how linn get away with it i don't know. when i had my lp 12 the sound on some recordings was so bad i couldn't listen to most of my record collection, i had that thing to and from rayleigh 3 times and every time they said it is set up fine, so it had to go and then i bought a gyro and will never change it.

 

my friend who works in the industry says the same. he has an sme 30 now that is something to behold,