Golden Ratio and Fibonacci Sequence

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    Heavymental

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    Just been googling this in an idle moment.
    Makes you think that we must have only scratched the surface of the mathematical rules that shape our environment.
    Have a google...its mind boggling....not least for the questions it raises...how did the egyptians know it?!
     
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    LiloLee Blah, Blah, Blah.........

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    er, why wouldn't the Egyptians know them? They are both very simple progressions
    Golden ratio = 1+(1/(1+1/(1+1/(1..... ~1.618
    Fibonacci 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21 etc.....

    Remember they didn't have much to do during the day so I suspect they could put more effort into maths than we do now. That is why most thing Mathematical were discovered by the Greeks, Egyptians, Babylonians etc some 2,5000 years ago. A lot of the proofs were done in the last 3 centuries, mainly by the French and English.

    For any one interested in that sort of thing read 'Fermat's Last Theorum'
     
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    I think 'most thing(sic) Mathematical were discovered by the Greeks, Egyptians...' is probably unsupportable. I'm pretty sure the Egyptians didn't have a concept of infinite sequences, and although Archimedes had some concept of limits he didn't have the abstract tools to handle them.

    Anyway the 'Golden Ratio' is easy to see. If you take a rectangle and partition it into a square and another rectangle and the sides of the two rectangles have the same ratio then it's 'Golden'. If a rectangle is AxB (and A is larger than B) then it is 'Golden' if

    A/B = B/(A-B)

    for convenience B could be '1'...

    A = 1/(A-1)

    or

    A(A-1) = 1

    A is the 'Golden Ratio' of about 1.618.

    A couple of highly recommended books about easy maths history,

    A History of Pi and Zero: The Biography of a Dangerous Idea.

    Paul
     
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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    On a hifi note, what do people think of the use of 'golden ratios' by Cardass for cabling and I believe for the ideal listening room?

    (details on the cardass website)
     
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    Uncle Ants In Recordeo Speramus

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    Who knows - there may be something in it re the listening room, I suspect not re the cables. My guess is that they don't care or know themselves - but from a marketing perspective it sounds suitably mathematico-mystical and pythagorean to make folks think that they know someting we don't.
     
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    Paul Ranson

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    I don't see any good reason for the ideal room to be rectangular.

    Paul
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    It should be yellow, black & rectangular.
     
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    penance Arrogant Cock

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    Like a wasp in a box?
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    No, wedge shapes inside. I see them everywhere.
     
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    joel Shaman of Signals

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    The ideal listening room is infinite.
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    There there. Back on the couch.
     
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    Infinite wedges?
     
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    joel Shaman of Signals

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    Ouch. Not. Time for you to do some work perhaps. Taxpayers' money and all that.
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    It has kind of wedge shapes inside.
     
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    penance Arrogant Cock

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    cheese in a tin?
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    Oh, what does it mean?
     
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    Cheese in a tin is more resilliant to mould? maybe?
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    Oh, I see them everywhere,

    Everywhere, do you hear me?
     
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    penance Arrogant Cock

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    I see the voices, i dont hear them, i see them.
    They tell me to jump, but i ignore them.
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    What you have been seeing everywhere you look are those yellow and black signs used to indicate a fallout shelter in buildings.
     
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