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Why are we zipping round in these circles? There has been some realy crap "science" bandied around here.

Red book: 16 bits and 44.1kHz was the technology limit in the 70's when the standard was thrashed out by Philips and Sony. btw Sony wanted 14bit as a maximum because ...

Most CD players actually don't have a real 16bit dynamic range. More bits allows the DACs to operate more linearly.

Vinyl does not have infinite sampling, grain size of the material (tape or vinyl itself) limits it as do the filters etc. of cutting lathes.

CD benefits from up-sampling because it allows the DAC to do its thing without putting crap back in the audio range.

My preferred explanation for CD's failings? Jitter and brick wall filtering.

Chers

Jason
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<blockquote data-quote="ReJoyce" data-source="post: 494552" data-attributes="member: 1066">Why are we zipping round in these circles? There has been some realy crap &quot;science&quot; bandied around here.Red book: 16 bits and 44.1kHz was the technology limit in the 70's when the standard was thrashed out by Philips and Sony. btw Sony wanted 14bit as a maximum because ...Most CD players actually don't have a real 16bit dynamic range. More bits allows the DACs to operate more linearly.Vinyl does not have infinite sampling, grain size of the material (tape or vinyl itself) limits it as do the filters etc. of cutting lathes.CD benefits from up-sampling because it allows the DAC to do its thing without putting crap back in the audio range.My preferred explanation for CD's failings? Jitter and brick wall filtering.ChersJason&lt;justification mode&gt;Who has lots of science qualifications and works for a humungous consumer electronics company.&lt;/justification mode&gt;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ReJoyce, post: 494552, member: 1066"] Why are we zipping round in these circles? There has been some realy crap "science" bandied around here. Red book: 16 bits and 44.1kHz was the technology limit in the 70's when the standard was thrashed out by Philips and Sony. btw Sony wanted 14bit as a maximum because ... Most CD players actually don't have a real 16bit dynamic range. More bits allows the DACs to operate more linearly. Vinyl does not have infinite sampling, grain size of the material (tape or vinyl itself) limits it as do the filters etc. of cutting lathes. CD benefits from up-sampling because it allows the DAC to do its thing without putting crap back in the audio range. My preferred explanation for CD's failings? Jitter and brick wall filtering. Chers Jason <justification mode>Who has lots of science qualifications and works for a humungous consumer electronics company.</justification mode> [/QUOTE]

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