not directed at anyone in particular,honest (Pat McGinty is the lord to many in here,he works for Meadowlark,if thats what the co are called) "that tears and goose bumps thing,that trembling,swept away thing,that dance around the room thing" sorry Graham,i am still babbling :) ,although I am sure they have to measure a few things in Q+A first Merry Xmas and a happy new year to all :)
