Heathow Hi-fi Show,

well guys, since i have being attending "and working on" the hi-fi indrusty, have seen the shows slowlly detiorrating year by year i have now seen the end of an era, very dissapointed to say the least, i took along one of my customers to meet a manufacturer, having sold him one of his high end t/t's what i mean by high end £1799.00 had the cheek or nerve to say to him infront of me that he is discontinued that model and he has a new one coming out that will sound better at a retail of £1000.00, that made feel like shit,
later i will speak,regards
nando.

 

I'm not saying your sonic description of the focals at the show is wrong. I just know that paired with something like a good valve amp they can sound totally different.

 

^^ OK - they sure had a very "tight" sound, regardless of the dryness - it would be very interesting to hear the Focals with valves. Aren't they a tricky load, though?

 

That is bad - name and shame.

I don't do shows anymore, they don't demonstrate anything meaningful though 30 years ago they did enable me to find Bill Beard and Allison speakers. New Krells - rubbish, old Krells sublime so can perfectly understand feedback there.

However - I am curious - did anyone have any observations on the new £8000 Music First preamp perchance (notwithstanding my caveat that it's difficult to evaluate in hotel rooms)?

 

Oops! I can see that was embarassing, but it doesn't seem right to condemn the whole Show because of one person's insensitivity.

I thought the Show overall was to a high standard, in terms of facilities, room sound and the range and extent of equipment on demonstration.

Also, all day parking at Heathrow for £6 was most welcome! I used to pay nearer £20 when the HiFi News Show was the only one there.

 

I agree. It can be damaging to make statements about stuff that doesn't sound good at a show. I would hesitate to condemn anything based on a show performance.


Steve

 

I Do Not Condemm The Whole Show, If You Think That The Show Was Of High Standard, Then That Is Your Personal View, I Respect That , But Having "my Selef" Exiviting For The Last 25 Years I Beg To Differ,
Nando.

 

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I WANT TO NAME AND SHAME, BUT I AM FED UP WITH INFIDELS OF THE INDUSTRY, SPECIALLY WHEN YOU SELL THEIR PRODUCTS FROM SCRACTH, AND THEN WHEN THEY THINK THAT THEY HAVE BECOME WELL ESTABLISHED THEY ARE ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY GET BIGGER AND BIGGER THAN YOU, THEY FORGET WHAT YOU HAVE DONE, N&S.: STARTS WITH AN "A"!

 

I would have to agree that the show was a bad joke really, and I very much doubt we will see another one next year. It's not just customers saying it - many exhibitors were really pissed off with the lack of organisation and poor promotion.

If the best sound most of them could manage was what they produced, they either sell crap that makes the decline of the audio industry all to understandable, or the rooms are so poor that they would have been far better off having a static display.

I couldn't stay in most rooms - the sound reproduction was so poor. Was it Avid Nando?

 

Yes, And I Do Not Care If I Loose The Agency,after All That I Have Done To Say That Infront Of My Customer I Wish That The Floor Opend Up And Took Me Inside, How Would You Feel? Luckelly My Customer Has Faith In Me, His Comment Afterwards Was " He Must Be God" To Get Blood Out Of A Stone,
Nando,p.s. What Can I Do? But At Present I Feel Hurt.

 

That sounds a bit depressing. I have no experience of selling HiFi or in the retail industry generally (apart from 6 'happy' months as a full-time fried chicken specialist). However, I can't help but get the feeling that it could all be done so much better. The ship appears to be sinking but nobody is doing anything about it.

If the views here are anything to go by the industry has a real problem relating to it's core customers. I can't understand why anyone would want to turn up and demo their stuff sounding poor in a crappy hotel room, or not let people play some of their music on the demo equipment; especially given the huge numbers of trade and enthusiasts who attend the show.

As consumers we are probably all a bit unrealistic in our expectations but there doesn't seem to be much 'meet you in the middle' from lots of manufacturers / dealers. The best ones in my limited experience are very friendly and go out of the way to assist; these are the ones I've bought kit from. There are some positive comments on this thread but most posts highlight a fair number of serious flaws rather than the good bits.

That said, it would have been interesting to go though, if only to meet a few people from ZG in person.

 

The sound in the room in general was good compared to most. But i can not say how good that one component was though as i knew none of the other components.

 

Hi-fi Show

HI, I LIKE YOUR VIEWS ON THIS ISSUE, YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME TO TALK TO ME AS I REALLY TREAT THIS HOBBY WITH A PASSION ,
KIIND REGARDS, NANDO.

 

Heathrow show

Got back from the Heathrow show with a large smile on my face,actually heard music,sweet music,this slice of entertainment and l mean entertainment was in the Puresound room with Heco speakers,what an entertaining sound for not a lot of money,my question isl am looking for an intergrated amp and will put the Pure sound A30 on my shortlistmy speakers are Harbeth Compact 7es 88db in a small room,and about heavy l would get is Cream,Steppenwolf etc,will it drive the Harbs ok? Hope everybody enjoyed thier selves at the show.

 

Nope, tarzan, from the posts on this thread it was just you an' me that had fun. Everyone else is having a serious grouching sesh (it's what forums are good for!)

 

I had fun too.

I'm taking up stamp-collecting! Can't afford any more upgrades.

 

Hi,
I agree with jerry and Tarzan, however have been to better previous shows. May be all of us should get together and have our own hifi enthusiasts music show. you in or out,
or in different. May be just another crazy idea. How do we keep the flame alive.
Keep on Rocking
John

 

Rearranging the deck chairs by the sounds of it.

 

The problem is they have been reinventing the wheel for 20 years and there comes a point where most people can see through the pretence. The ship is sinking because it hasn't got a port to go to and no passengers.

 

exsactly
nando.