HiFi+....at it again!

If anyone was any doubt that HiFi+ was bankrolled by Nordost then Issue 30 should settle the issue. We have glowing account of the effect that £15K worth of Nordost cable had on a fairly entry level system written by the winner of their recent "write an article and win some Nordost cables" competition. He was using the full Valkyrja suite of power cable, IC and speaker cables on an Arcam Alpha One CDP, NVA AP50 amp and some home made speakers using JM FocalLab drivers.

I didn't read all the :bs: but at the end he mentions how a £2K interconnect and £2K power cord made his £300 (in 1993) CDP sound "better than several £1000 CDPs I've heard" and then that "the speaker cables improved things again by an order of magnitude". I doubt it myself but he's entitled to his imagination . The real crime however is the next sentence: "So if and when I spend some serious money on a new CD player I'll know I'm doing it justice" :cry: . You've got £15Ks worth of cable and a 10 year old budget CDP for God's sake :banghead: ! £7500 (at s/h prices) would by him any number of reference digital front ends that would crap all over his Alpha One from a great height regardless of what cables he used with it. He could even upgrade his entire system for that money, £2500 on CDP, amp and speakers and he'd have a cracking system.

Is there no end to the cable madness???

Michael.

 

while i agree that it smacks of heavy favouritism

i dont agree its all madness

 

I don't think even the most ardent supporter of cables would suggest that using £15Ks worth of cable in a system that is worth at most £2K was money well spent. I'd call it madness

Michael.

 

Clearly one would expect £4.300 worth of CD player to outgun most £1,000 players, but even I admit the Nordost bias and Promos courtesy of HiFi+ are getting a tad ridiculous.

It even makes you wonder whether Nordost "bankrolled" the magazine's startup and is now seeking payback doesn't it.

The aim of all magazines is of course to sell advertising space, the internet is highly useful in exposing their scribblings for what they are.

 

Reminds me of the RA catalogue with the guy who's sytem comprised of a low/medium-end Marantz CDP/AMP setup with some budget Tannoy floorstanders, hooked up with top-of-the-range RA Kimber powercables, speaker cables, distribution blocks, Silencers and enough levels Torlyte to make even a M*N* user cream their pants
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Some perspective is required and it's a shame that HiFi+ seem to be loosing theirs.

Silk Purse/Pig's Ear anyone ?

 

Fabulous logic: spend £4k to get a 300 quid player to sound like a £1k one!

It could only happen in a hi-fi mag…

Tony.

 

Not much you can say here, other than it just doesn't do the audio industry any favours at all.

 

Stop whinging

WM

You are begining to sound like some moaning PFM forum member.

Learn the rules of business, ring up the Editor of Hifi + and invite him out to a good lunch at say the Queens in jolly old Cheltenham. Pour a few decent brandies down him and slip a couple of your high tech cables in his brief case.

Then advertise in his mag and events will take their natural course.

For crying out loud.....get with it that man.

Regards

Mick

 

:ffrc:

Best one yet.

 

Mick,

The Queens?, really, far better eating establishments around the vicinity sir.
Business is business Mick, but outright 'lunching' is beyond my preview sir

 

Complete madness and total insanity.
The whole cable thing is utter Bull ***t.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.

 

Agreed.

It depends how far you take it. Keep things in perspective with the abilities of your system and there are some gains to be had.

 

second or third that, its a sad sorry state of affairs.

A bit of madness in the hifi news issue with the mf kilo watt lovely amp, there is a £25k cable, lat or something like that, predictalby herr kessler I think it is is masturbating over it

 

I thought he disowned the whole cables thing a few months ago

He must have realised he was wrong Cant imagine there'd be too many takers for a £25K cable though.

 

Probably the most sensible thing you've ever written WM I didn't need an interpreter and I agree with you!

It can't be beneficial for the magazine either in the long term.

 

I don't think it was a £25K cable. AFAICR it was a "suite" of Siltech cables totalling about £30K. It was 2 or 3 months ago at least. ISTR he said they were "worth every penny" and at the same time "utterly system dependent" .

Michael.

 

Dev,

I'll try and rectify that straight away mate

 

with £15000 he could go to ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED reasoanbly priced gigs. seeing around, if not more than 3000 live acts - in the flesh. one gig a night , or thereabouts for five years.
mind you - you'd have to be REALLY SERIOUS about music to do that!!

 

Its easy to pour scorn obviously but has anyone actually tried a dem of equal budget cheap kit/expensive cable vs expensive kit/cheap cable. At least some actual evidence would lend weight to the scorn argument.

 

£25000! Thats what I paid for my flat 8 years ago. Do you think if I bought those cables they would be worth £100000 in 8 years?


I can just imagine my bank manager asking me what the £25000 loan was for.

"Oh its for a few meters of hifi cable, will change my life apparently!"

Bizzarly in this day and age of stupid reckless borrowing, it probably wouldnt raise an eyebrow.