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Re: Re: Re: Re: Tony

>>> Well as I said it was just a feeling, I could be wrong. However I do think the implications of recent comments here regards RG's/HiFi+' independence vis a vis Nordost were worthy of his consideration. If I were him I would have read them. It does seem oddly coincidental to me that a mention of forums was mentioned soon after.

The copy would have been written before that thread arose ... at least I think so.

>>> I certainly dont take the view that ZG is or should be of significance to "the industry" or to RG, its just the recent suggestions of bias toward Nordost and the cable debates generally ought to be of some relevance to RG. Funnily since this pro-Nordost bias was discussed here the bias seemed to get ever more obvious in HiFi+.

See quote about percieved importance above ;->

>>> Out of interest - what are the touchpoints then that the big players connect their brands and concepts to their customers - if its not via forums and magazines - then where/how? HiFi/AV shows? Shop fronts? TV ads?

I think the big brands have a real problem in reaching their customers. As they try to penetrate the high-end lifestyle market they rub up agfainst the real masters B&O and their marketing budget alone probably equals Naims turnover! I think most of it is still done through the old HiFi shop model. And the big brands will reward dealers that reward them.

>>> However I think you would probably agree it is hard to deny pressure is on reviewers to present "certain" products in the best possible light?

I have never had any pressure applied to me to give a good review to something. The stuff I have liked I have written about positively - simple as that.

>>> Can you honestly deny why people might feel there is an over emphasis on Nordost products in HiFi+ (based on the combo of articles and substantial advertising)?

I can see where it is coming from but I am a little less cynical because I know the people involved, they are enthusiasts! They think the stuff is good. I will be trying some myself soon based on these peoples, whom I trust, recommendation.

Cheers

Jason

<blockquote data-quote="ReJoyce" data-source="post: 543272" data-attributes="member: 1066">Re: Re: Re: Re: Tony&gt;&gt;&gt; Well as I said it was just a feeling, I could be wrong. However I do think the implications of recent comments here regards RG's/HiFi+' independence vis a vis Nordost were worthy of his consideration.&nbsp; If I were him I would have read them.&nbsp; It does seem oddly coincidental to me that a mention of forums was mentioned soon after.The copy would have been written before that thread arose ... at least I think so.&gt;&gt;&gt; I certainly dont take the view that ZG is or should be of significance to &quot;the industry&quot; or to RG, its just the recent suggestions of bias toward Nordost and the cable debates generally ought to be of some relevance to RG.&nbsp; Funnily since this pro-Nordost bias was discussed here the bias seemed to get ever more obvious in HiFi+.See quote about percieved importance above ;-&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Out of interest - what are the touchpoints then that the big players connect their brands and concepts to their customers - if its not via forums and magazines - then where/how? HiFi/AV shows? Shop fronts? TV ads?I think the big brands have a real problem in reaching their customers. As they try to penetrate the high-end lifestyle market they rub up agfainst the real masters B&amp;O and their marketing budget alone probably equals Naims turnover! I think most of it is still done through the old HiFi shop model. And the big brands will reward dealers that reward them.&gt;&gt;&gt; However I think you would probably agree it is hard to deny pressure is on reviewers to present &quot;certain&quot; products in the best possible light?I have never had any pressure applied to me to give a good review to something. The stuff I have liked I have written about positively - simple as that.&gt;&gt;&gt; Can you honestly deny why people might feel there is an over emphasis on Nordost products in HiFi+ (based on the combo of articles and substantial advertising)?I can see where it is coming from but I am a little less cynical because I know the people involved, they are enthusiasts! They think the stuff is good. I will be trying some myself soon based on these peoples, whom I trust, recommendation.CheersJason</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ReJoyce, post: 543272, member: 1066"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Re: Tony[/b] >>> Well as I said it was just a feeling, I could be wrong. However I do think the implications of recent comments here regards RG's/HiFi+' independence vis a vis Nordost were worthy of his consideration. If I were him I would have read them. It does seem oddly coincidental to me that a mention of forums was mentioned soon after. The copy would have been written before that thread arose ... at least I think so. >>> I certainly dont take the view that ZG is or should be of significance to "the industry" or to RG, its just the recent suggestions of bias toward Nordost and the cable debates generally ought to be of some relevance to RG. Funnily since this pro-Nordost bias was discussed here the bias seemed to get ever more obvious in HiFi+. See quote about percieved importance above ;-> >>> Out of interest - what are the touchpoints then that the big players connect their brands and concepts to their customers - if its not via forums and magazines - then where/how? HiFi/AV shows? Shop fronts? TV ads? I think the big brands have a real problem in reaching their customers. As they try to penetrate the high-end lifestyle market they rub up agfainst the real masters B&O and their marketing budget alone probably equals Naims turnover! I think most of it is still done through the old HiFi shop model. And the big brands will reward dealers that reward them. >>> However I think you would probably agree it is hard to deny pressure is on reviewers to present "certain" products in the best possible light? I have never had any pressure applied to me to give a good review to something. The stuff I have liked I have written about positively - simple as that. >>> Can you honestly deny why people might feel there is an over emphasis on Nordost products in HiFi+ (based on the combo of articles and substantial advertising)? I can see where it is coming from but I am a little less cynical because I know the people involved, they are enthusiasts! They think the stuff is good. I will be trying some myself soon based on these peoples, whom I trust, recommendation. Cheers Jason [/QUOTE]

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