HIFICRITIC Petition

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    mosfet

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    If this petition gets enough support I'll compile and email it to HIFICRITIC. If it doesn't I won't bother. Thirty or more signatures would be a rough target.

    Please read this:

    If you agree with the petition statement then post “I support this petitionâ€Â. This is sufficient to register your support.

    If you don't agree with the petition statement, for whatever reason, then please ignore this thread. The arguments have been well and truly aired, they don't need airing again.


    From about HIFICRITIC

    Petition Statement

    We the undersigned recognise the editorial aim of HIFICRITIC to distance itself from mainstream hi-fi journalism by being a genuinely unfettered critical voice and by offering to the reader serious critical insight, review and investigation.

    We ask HIFICRITIC to use scientific method to investigate the stubbornly contentious issue of cable sound. Such method involving listening tests. If HIFICRITIC considers present methods to be of insufficient resolving ability, for whatever reason, we ask HIFICRITIC to endeavour to find method it does consider will deliver meaningful results and can be practicably employed.
     
    mosfet, Feb 22, 2007
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    I support this petition.
     
    mosfet, Feb 22, 2007
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    I support this petition.:)
     
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    sq225917 Exposer of Foo

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    i support this petition
     
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    I support it
     
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    I support this petition
     
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    zanash

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    count me in.....

    are you suggesting they don't or wont ?

    theres nothing in the text to suggest either way ...but I'd have thought

    "to provide comprehensive investigations"

    was a pretty good catch all .....
     
    zanash, Feb 23, 2007
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    Andy 831

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    Count me in, I support the petition
     
    Andy 831, Feb 23, 2007
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    Sorry I must be missing the point. Why would a commercial magazine give a toss what we think? also, this is clearly a not very subtle way of getting free advertising on a mission statement that will probably mean F all when they realise they can't pay the bills.

    Rod
     
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    Why the hell would you suddenly start believing anything this lot say. It's the same old faces that have been around since time immaterial.

    What's changed? Are they suddenly saying that after all these years, they've seen the light, and have now, in their dotage, been miraculously relieved of all the hidden agenders, that have plagued them for most of their careers.

    Nah!!! :rolleyes:
     
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    I'll support it.
     
    owl37400, Feb 23, 2007
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    zanash wrote:
    If the stated aim of HifFi Critic is to be a more credible and critical alternative to the populist “soft†mainstream, they should at least be open to the idea of objective, rather than subjective, journalism. It's worth asking in this way I think zanash, provided there is interest to do so.


    rodrat wrote:
    I don't have any connection with the magazine.
     
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    Tenson Moderator

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    The only thing I wonder is if it will make any difference to anyone? I doubt Zanash will change his opinion on cables based on any findings they make and I also will not start buying special cables if they say that they make an audible difference, because I know that for me they don't. It probably also wont stop manufactures spouting bollox science.
     
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    Tim F

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    I support it, better somethings done than nothing (5 stars).
     
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    Bob McC living the life of Riley

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    They can do what they want. I won't be shelling out £50 to find out their conclusions!
     
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    It's a good point.

    But, well, if they come to the conclusion that cables make no difference, it will save some people coming to the same conclusion the expensive way.

    And if they come to the conclusion that certain things do make a difference, then sceptical types like myself might be tempted to try those certain things and might end up enjoying an improvement.
     
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    Why on earth do you need their opinion, on anything. They're only journalists writing about Hi-Fi, to make a living. If it wasn't Hi-Fi, it'd be something else, like 'What Curry' or 'What Girl Friend'. Presumably you've got a pair of ears. Go to your local friendly dealer and borrow whatever you think might make your life more fulfilling, be it cables, widgets, or whatever. Listen yourself, and form a view as to whether they make any difference to you, or not.

    Sorry for going off on one, but only you can be the arbiter of where your interest lies, not some self styled 'expert'.
     
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    I see the usual arguments are being trotted out. :(

    Newsflash for you Arrowhead. I'd like to know if there is something more than psychology to cable sound before entertaining the idea of listening to any. I don't do healing crystals either for the self same reason. Perhaps you do? You should take yourself down to your local friendly new-age crystal shop and try some.
     
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    I thought this was about who supports it... start another thread guys...
     
    Tim F, Feb 23, 2007
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