look at this: [URL]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NIKON-AF-80-400-VR-F4-5-5-6-D-SLR-Lens-NEW_W0QQitemZ100504526839QQcategoryZ52473QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem[/URL] he has created 10 scammy feedbacks for himself - on the same day of listing this lens, from buyers whose IDs are random characters, all for some cheap bracelet and with cut and pasted feedback remarks :rolleyes: . I've sent him a query and also reported to ebay. doesn't help the black mood I'm in having looked around for a reasonably priced long lens for my D70, for sports and wildlife. in the good old days of manual lenses you could pick up a cheap prime and stick a teleconverter on it. now you can't use the camera's metering with a manual lens (according to the manual - I may well test this out in a shop), the latest digi AF lenses are horrifically expensive and both Nikon and Sigma teleconverters only work with a few specific lenses. bah!