HOW MUCH MORE!? (Happy slapping)

Can someone explain to me what the hell possesses some dumbassed kids to do something like this: "Happy" slapping

I'm assuming the perps didn't get themselves caught on camera? IF they did, they should have the full weight of the law thrown at them - the little shits.

 

A spokesman for the school said: "This is a police matter which happened outside school."

What hope is there when schools take an attitude like that?

 

Tis not the schools responsibility to instill lawfulness and behavior - they should learn that from the parents.

I hate it when schools get blamed for feral kids.

 

Damn right - if the parents gave a sod, society would be all the better for it. Nice one Thatcher - force boom'n'bust and selfishness on the 80s parents, and it rubs off on the current new crop. Thatcher's the reason latchkey kids came about en masse - all IMHO of course!

 

I wouldn't mind betting that if a couple of little twats tried that on me and I gave one or both of them a good hiding on camera that the footage would then be used to prosecute me for beating up "children"!

Matt.

 

Matt, nail>head

Our local shops, unfortunately are in Southmead, the kids know we cant touch them and play on it.

 

Of course it's the parents who bear the prime responsibility. A few more police on the streets wouln't hurt either.

Even so, if it had been kids at my school the school would not have abdicated their responsibility and we would have been hauled up before the headmaster pronto. It would have soon stopped.

It's the parents
It's the schools
It's the police
It's successive governments
It's the media

Poor kids. Maybe they should be rewarded.

 

Christ that brings back terrible memories of Sunday morning football matches against (Southmead pub) The Bear & Rugged Staff!

The matches could be quite nasty - especially at their place where they always had a big crowd of supporters (and their dogs). They were as nice as pie at the pub aftterwards - as long as they had won mind you.

I'll confess I made sure I was 'unavailable' for a few of those fixtures.

Matt.

 

Dobt blame you Matt, a strange breed down there.

bera and Rugged, best not go there....

 

Also, this is a very interesting article in The Scotsman - a bit controversial but worth reading:

"The welfare system that benefits no one" by Fraser Nelson

 

I don't get it all. I have always argued that technology should only be accesable to those that can be responsible with it. Clearly these kids are not.

ANother really annoying feature of the modfern genration of mobile phones is the peizo buzzer, you get chavs listening to hip hop on their mobile via a piezo it really drives me mad.

The schools do need to teach bahaviour as well and they do need to take on some of the responsibility.

It does come down to the parents at the end of the day though. I once did leaflets in Edgely (near the football stadium in Stockport) I had never experienced so much cheak in my life. There are 5 year olds telling me to F off. This I admit is very very rare.

I am sure it is the only the minority of kids behaving in this way, so lets remember that. I think the parents do need to take much of the blame, the schools also need to act responsibly and not just deal with issues which happen during school hours.

 

You want schools to deal with issues that happen after hours? where did you get that gem? Youll be wanting teachers to scorn kids for not eating greens during Sunday lunch next.

School is for learning maths, music, RE, language, PE etc etc etc - Of course teachers have to admonish children when they misbehave AT SCHOOL. The only after school issues teachers should get involved in should be related to damage of school property.

A school is for teaching kids knowledge - in an ideal world, the schoold would be supported by parents in achieving scholastic goals. When both pieces of the puzzle are in place you will get good well rounded children turning into good well rounded adults.

 

I thought a school was supposed to produce rounded citezens, its not all about maths and science.

What happens out of school is beyond the schools control, but during school hours the school should do everything in their power to make sure kids know how to behave.

I went to a very rough school and the teachers with the most respect were the human ones, they told us stories and took an interest in our outside lifes, if they suspected somthing was wrong they contacted your parents they sat down and spoke to you.

Now if their parents tell them do one then there is not much the teachers can do out of school hours.

The government should perhaps take some of the blame for creating a system which allows parents as bad as some of them.

It is a very complex issue and social engineering needs to avoided if possible.

 

Victorians had it right, send em up t'chimney and make the little buggers work. They should lower the school leavin age not put it up, 11 max I say. Theres loads of coal still to be mined. The world still needs cotton, we've still got the mills in the north west, plenty of sheep on t'hills lets get them going again. Its about time they start to pull their weight. Id say no further education except for those of the highest order who will provide some substance. In three generations time we'll be back on track.....

 

A good school considers its pupils as its ambassadors, simple as that.

Furthermore, knowledge doesn't stop when a child leaves the classroom.

As a parent there's no way that I would send my children to a school where pupils behaved like that, either inside or outside school hours. Would you?

 

My parents did, and they didn't regret it.

I am not going into details but I had a medical condition at school my first school was my local shchool. A highly regarded comprehensive school which gets lots of good press.

The teachers there didn't care less and were only interested in the A grade pupils, any special needs were considered a nuisance.

My second school was a hospital school that was good but I couldn't stay there long becuase they were not equiped well for GCSEs.

My third secondary school was a rough innercity school but the teachers really really cared about their pupils and were really helpful. The head teacher knew us all personaly.

My mum actually wrote her a letter when I left thanking her for running such a good school, she then phoned my mum personaly and said its the nicest letter she had ever recieved. Because the school was so rough the teachers were there becuase they wanted to help people, in some posher schools the teachers are some times there for an easy life.

So it really depends on the circumstances, when choosing a school for my kids I won't be going of grades or reputation, I will check out how good the teachers seem to be, although I wouldn't like them going to a school as rough as mine, so reputation is important, but that is hard to measure.

By contrast my sister went to a grammar school.

 

Superb article and very interesting - not sure it's controversial - hell, it was a US Democrat who introduced the tough welfare measures.

Here's hoping New Labour and the left in general take some notice. I won't hold my breath though.

Matt.

 

hmm, certainly some responsibility should be taken by the school if the video is being distibuted there. also they are partially responsible for the development of a child and so should bear some responsibility, although the parents should bear the brunt of it.
i sincerely belive that there should be something akin to 'citizenship' classes taught in school that have to be passed like any other subject especially given todays pressures on parents (2 income mortgages, expectations of bosses and peers with respect to social and carrer lives etc.) although that's not an excuse just an observation of todays reality. most of these 'ferral' kids haven;t had the benefit of either parent due to a multitude of circumstances so they don;t really know how to act in civilised society.
the other thing i blame is the americanisation of our country.
all that said is some little chav c*nt tries it on with me the only video he'll be shooting will be of his lower intestine. before i destroy the evidence by stamping on him.

 

Amazingtrade
In the real world you will find you will send your children to the school that serves your post code.
End of story.

Bob

 

But where I live there many many schools in the catchment area. Within reason you can choose which school you want.

I would probably sent my kids to a grammar school if I felt they could pass the 11+ as it did my sister a lot of good, although she is a genius anyway, she's got her name on a plaque for being one of schools highest achievers.

I just got a picture in the local paper when I left school for being a relative high achiever (thats how bad it was).

My mum went to school in the 1970's and she said that people used to through chairs round the room the second the teacher has gone out, so I am not sure if anything has really changed.