How would I know if my amp needed re-capping?

Discussion in 'Hi-Fi and General Audio' started by PBirkett, May 11, 2006.

  1. PBirkett

    PBirkett VTEC Addict

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2003
    Messages:
    2,456
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    The Toon
    OK so I got this Onix OA21 off ebay... its obviously quite an old amp, could well be up to 20 years old in theory... and theres no indication as to whether its been re-capped recently or not.

    So how would I know?

    The amp sounds pretty good to me, but I feel its bass is a little weak compared to my old Rotel (but maybe thats just the character of the amp itself?).

    Who could do it, and what sort of cost would I be looked at? (i'm no good at DIY)... is it a time consuming job?

    Is it worthwhile to get higher quality caps than the standard one... is there a big difference in quality?

    Thanks for helping a DIY numpty. :D
     
    PBirkett, May 11, 2006
    #1
  2. PBirkett

    zanash

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2003
    Messages:
    3,826
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Notts.
    Anything over 10 -15 years old in my opinion will need recapping...

    pm me

    Cost, a lot depends on whats in it and who you get to do it.

    Yes no maybe ....how long is a peice of string ?

    Better caps will help even if you just up the spec from 85degree to 105 degree.

    But if your going to the trouble of recapping you want to fit the best your budget will allow.

    tell us whats in it !
     
    zanash, May 11, 2006
    #2
  3. PBirkett

    I-S Good Evening.... Infidel

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2003
    Messages:
    4,842
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    In a world of pain
    Weak in the bass compared to rotel? Hmmm.... Last rotel I measured rolled off from 100Hz downwards (about -2dB at 20Hz). It certainly sounded lean compared to amps that are flat to 20Hz.

    Recapping... electrolytic caps don't last forever. If you're not averse to taking the lid off, have a look at them. See if the tops are swollen or there's any sign of leakage around the bases. Given its age, I would think that recapping would be on the agenda.

    As for what to use, depends on how much you're prepared to spend. For analogue, Samwhas and Panasonic FCs aren't too expensive and work well. Spend a bit more and you can get into Elna RJH, Rubycon ZL and ZA. Above that there's Elna Stargets, Cerafines and Silmics, Rubycon/Jelmax Black Gates (if you can find them and afford... Rubycon produced them on behalf of Jelmax Corp, but recently stopped) and of course the real esoteric stuff.
     
    I-S, May 11, 2006
    #3
  4. PBirkett

    3DSonics away working hard on "it"

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2004
    Messages:
    1,469
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Planet Dirt, somewhere on it
    By checking if it is much more than 3 years old and....

    .....contains electrolytic capacitors.

    If there is notable dust on a cap it is old.

    You?

    If I had time I'd probably charge £ 35/Hour and parts. Given that usually a few dozend capacitors exist per channel and old Naim, Onix etc Amp's are a bitch to disassemble and reassemble expect a good few hours.

    It MAY be worth to upgrade, but "upgraded" rather than standard capacitors may change a well balanced sound to one that is no longer balanced.

    Ciao T
     
    3DSonics, May 11, 2006
    #4
Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (here). After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.