Hutton report - whitewash?

IMO definitely. Blair gets off scott free and the BBC carry the can for everything :inferno: It's so clear that the WMD report was "sexed up", it's just a pity the evidence was covered up.

BTW, and you're not going to believe this but it's absolutely true:
Shortly before the "dodgy dossier" came out I was on a BA flight back to Lisbon sitting on an aisle seat in a group of 3 seats. The window seat was occupied by a female Mi6 agent and in the seat between me and her was her boyfriend/partner whose involvement with the intelligence services I couldn't determine. They were discussing many what I would have though were "sensitive" issues in a way that I was easily able to listen in. I pretended to be engrossed in my Harry Potter book but was infact jotting salient points of the conversation down on my Phone/PDA

From what she said about her career at Mi6 and the names she mentioned I was able to cross reference enough to know that she wasn't making this up.

Well, anyway, all very interesting but she also talked about John Scarlet (a long time colleague and friend and now the head of the JIC who effectively "wrote" the dodgy dossier) and how he was absolutely furious with the government about having to fake WMD evidence for them...

This was all way before any of fuss about it and Dr. Kelly etc. blew up in the media.

Clearly I'll find it difficult to prove any of this but I know she wasn't bullshitting. The details I got from the conversation would be enough for someone in Mi6 to identify the agent though....

You heard it here first. If anything should happen to me, someone investigate And of course, someone look after the forum :MILD:

Michael.

 

In case you disappeared suddenly , I just wanted to say I agree with you. The amazing thing was that they used someone's thesis to "sex-up" the dossier and got away so easily.

Decades ago, I heard about a politician using science to win votes in a 3rd world country. Apparently the political argument was over state borders and one state was offered a water resevoir as compensation for redrawn boundaries. The head of the state turned down the water on the grounds that the water had flowed over a hydro-electric dam and it was now useless because all the electricity had been removed from it. He apparently won this argument.

The scientific evidence in the Iraq dossier must on par with the above true (alledgedly) story.

 

Whitewash.

 

Dev,
Unfortunately, this kind of ignorant is not that uncommon even today every way in the world. I find it very funny but yet at the same time sad.

Michael,
I am not so sure of your story. However, because it is so silly that is seems believable.

 

Fortunately we have the general election to show them how we feel.

Alistair Campbell and Tony Bliar

 

White wash??????.
No I don't think so,
Blair just set up the public inquiry, set the parameters and conditions of the inquiry limited the scope of the inquiry and finally chose the Judge. Not a bad way to ensure that you obtain the results that you want . The saddest thing though, is that due to his constant spin and manipulation of every thing in the media we seem to have forgotten this fact and that a man has died because of Blairs economy with the truth. Or am I just a old cynic?
oldie.

 

More Rose-Tinted than WhiteWashed in my opinion.
The intelligence was obviously chosen to fit an argument, but 'they' are too smart to endanger thier careers by blatantly deceiving or lying, they found a very blurred piece of the line and stood on it.
However, Blair would be wise to go and let Brown in. If the current Tory party was elected they would be too busy trying to keep the more vocal voters happy than to be running anything.
I remember Howard as Home Secretary: Daily Express Front Page on Monday equalled a New Bill on Wednesday, truly rabid populism! That Tory party was truly the anti-government, if it needed governing they sold it on the cheap to thier chums and then got a job on the board later! Vile.

Anyone remember John Smith?

 

cream flow, keg or handpump?

 

Oh yes, January 29th...
Who says drugs and beer make you puerile and befuddled?

 

And how's that?

Can't imagine any of the alternatives being any better!

 

A tale of two stories:

1) A single source indicates discontent within a secret organisation about exaggeration of evidence. Story results in someone topping themselves. Story is manifestly true although exaggerated in detail. Purveyor of story and seniors castigated and villified.

2) A single source indicates possibility of nasty secret weapons threatening world peace. Story results in invasion of country, untold destruction and cost. Story found to be completely untrue (although may have been true 10 years ago). Purveyors of story and seniors completely exonerated of all blame.

Are these in anyway related. I think we should be told. (Shame Private Eye doesn't come out until next Friday, 6th)

 

Thats probably closer to the truth than calling it a whitewash.

 

Mind you, Mr Hislop esq. wasn't exactly reticent on Question Time yesterday!

 

Just saw Friday's issue (a day early) in the newsagent in the office here...the front page is a classic:

Headline of "Hutton report IN FULL" and a picture of Lord Hutton saying: "..and in conclusion I find Dr. Shipmann innocent of all charges" :lol:

Michael.

 

They really have shown their colours, government TOTALLY exonerated, can't do wrong, BBC ALL wrong.

Its quite obvious, too one sided, a fix up, albeit a subtle one for most people.

We know the truth, allegedly, the party in power knew kelly was going to talk, he went for a walk to clear his headache, and ordered personally to slash his wrist WITH his watch on...(woudlnt you take it off first if you were doin yerself in?), was the SAS to make it look like a suicide.

The govt wanted war, as did the yanks, they had to sex up the dossier as they had nothing else.

Bush's poodle blair.

I recall someone saying that the public would be plesantly suprised if they really knew the truth about MPs...s in how decent they are.

How come they don't simplyh do the decent thing and resign...that shows they have no honour or credibility at all.

Blair should go, Hoon should go.