phwew, I am getting a ribbing on this, maybe I better shut up and stop making generalisations

Robbo, is that YOUR lovely amp, corr, how I am green.

Lee, very interesting, be interested to know who that person is, and how he does it.

Ian, nice speakers BTW, I have c7s, and superb they are too, very natural indeed. Good low level sound. 8" woofer, 50 hz, not the most bassy with it, but clarity and insight without fatigue.