What do scallies do when they can't afford a sub woofer for their car? They wire the standard speakers out of phase. I guess all that enemim crap they listen to has damaged their ears to point were they can't hear passed 4Khz anyway so all they want is bass. They may as well just attach a low pass filter to their speakers and have done with it. PS As you can tell I am trying really hard to avoid writing these reports.