LG shows off 71-inch plasma TV

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    You don't get too many of these to the pound!

    Auric:)
     
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    I want one and I want it now God damm it !

    :( :( :(
     
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    The FPS value is low.:SLEEP: :SLEEP: :SLEEP:
     
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    MO! MOnkey`ead!

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    what is the norm' for the FPS value?
     
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    julian2002 Muper Soderator

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    guys,
    the fps (frames per second) isn't that low really. due to interlacing normal tv has an equivalent fps of 25 (50 hz scan with 2 interlaced picture frames).
    plasma and projector displays are progressive scan not interlaced scan so a frame rate of 24 is not really distinguishable from normal tv.
    as a point of interest ALL films in movie theaters run at 24 fps and no one complains about a low frame rate there.
    cheers

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    I've had plasma's and sold em, great for showing off and space saving, but CRT is still king of the Quality pictures :)
     
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    Well, I had no complaints about either of the big Pioneer plasmas that I've seen in action feed with progressive scan sources. Both the 50inch and 60inch models looked about as good as the best CRTs I've seen.

    Then again, I'm not that much of videophile as I am an audiophile. :rolleyes:

    Now then, when are we likely to start seeing some smaller sized plasmas for use with our desktop PC i.e. 15-21 inch sort of size? I'd love one of those, at a sensible price of course. Would never buy an LCD though, even given the current on-going price drops, they suck big time IMO compared to a decent Trinitron/Diamondtron based CRT monitor. :chunder:
     
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    TFT, LCD or what?

    A while ago I was watching some 'property porn' on CH4 one afternoon and noticed someone using a digital projector to throw a picture across a room onto what looked like an opaque ground glass room divider. Very swish, no ostentatious tft or lcd screen spoiling the cool clean lines of this bright, new Manchester loft.

    So, how do digital (?) projectors compare with a big screens?

    Auric :)
     
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    Buzzzz. Wrong!! Next contestant please. ;)

    24 Frames Per Second is an feature to improve the picture quality from film based DVDs.

    When a feature film is transfered to DVD it has a Frame Rate of 24FPS, but at playback it is interpolated to 25FPS for PAL or 30FPS for NTSC, these are the video standards that your TV understands. The extra frames are fudged from two non related frames and the result is picture anomolies called De-Interlacing errors. The most obvious effect is jerky motion when something moves across the picture.

    Certain DVD players have the ability to reconstruct the original 24FPS frame rate and so remove the De-Interlacing errors - but the advantage is lost if the display in unable to display 24FPS correctly. This has been a weakness with some Plasma displays and is exactly what LG have adressed with this product.

    "Teacher mode" off now. :MILD:
     
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    Re: TFT, LCD or what?

    Picture size per £ - A+
    Performance in a darkened room A+
    Performance in daylight - D and improving
    Running costs - C+ and improving


    I have a small ground glass screen I use for demos. If you are viewing from the sweet spot then the results are fabulous, but the image loses a lot of brightness if you move off axis. There is a Manchester based firm that claim to have solved the directionality issue by adding a light focussing vinyl film to ordinary sandblasted plastic sheet. Perhaps this is what you have seen?

    Another company I know of called DNP making a special glass screen that has a wide viewing angle. The screen is called HoloPro. Is is almost transparent until a projected image is fired onto its surface at just the correct angle. It's still a bit pricey - about £5k for a 60" diagonal screen + projector costs, but the results can be outstanding.

    Projection is becoming viable as an alternative to a conventional TV. It is worth investigating if you are serious about big screen entertainment.
     
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    I haven't seen a plasma screen yet that was a patch on even a mediocre CRT screen in terms of quality. Mate of mine has the Hitachi CDM-3200 (or something like that) 32" plasma TV (comes with a tuner box etc) and all the mags are giving it 5 stars, "excellent picture quality" etc but the quality is, frankly, cr@p compared to a normal TV. It's got really noticeable solarization (bands of colour instead of a smooth transition) and other horrible artefacts. If that's good then I'd hate to see what bad is :eek:

    Other plasmas I've seen shops are no better. Take a look at the image close up and you'll see what I mean.

    Projectors are the best way to get a quality big screen image at home (and they're considerably cheaper than plasmas) and I very nearly went that route but in terms of everyday usability (ie for just watching TV) they suck because they need a dark room. If you have a projector for watching DVDs you really need a separate CRT TV for watching TV.

    Michael.
     
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    Since when did we pay any notice of what magazines think is good? :) As long as a product doesn't blow up then "What" magazine will normally give it a 5* review. Nothing to do with how much advertising space the manufacturer takes of course ;)

    To be fair Plasma has improved a lot since it's introduction. I would give a 32" Philips Plasma house room and that is in comparison to my highly regarded 32" Pixel Plus TV. Not all Plasmas are the same though.

    Much of the problem with solarisation can also be caused by MPEG mastering in Digital Satellite and DVD encoding.
     
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