Lofgren v Baerwald alignment

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    anon_bb Honey Badger

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    Has anyone compared the two? I am using Lofgren on my Wallytractor but some people say it can sound a bit hard. Any thoughts?
     
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    I've had lofgren on my wallytractor but antibiotics cleared it up.
     
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    The ideal solution is to adjust cartridge alignment for each track, setting the null point at about half-way through. Adjustments to the Cello Palette should be made at the same time.
     
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    Too much overhang on your wally.

    Thats what airtangents are for.
     
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    lol :D
     
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    durka durka!
     
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    Now a few useful responses would be great...
     
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    ......mohammed jihad?
     
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    Didnt we meet before in durkadurkastan?
     
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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    BBV if they are audio terms, would you mind explaining for the non-plussed (myself among them) what they are?

    Cheers
    Chris

    At the moment I'm imagining you like listening to Nils Lofgren whilst you're driving your tractor, and Im sure thats not right.
     
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    The Devil IHTFP

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    Google. All will be revealed.
     
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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    TBH I was hoping BBV would do that, its his thread after all :)
     
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    me too - this has opened up a whole new world, i'm going to close the lid quick.

    presumably he's listening to Nils on not a very good tractor
     
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    Oh sorry - took it for granted. Here goes...

    They are the cartridge alignment geometries for stylus setup. Sweeping out an arc of mimimum distortion between two points that decide the start and end of side. Modern records start later and end earlier on the record surface hence lofgren minimises the likely error between these points. Baerwald is the older standard and assumes longer playing sides and is the one most likely to be observed on a single method protractor. When I was raising my VTA - which keeps the paralell alignment correct while moving back the cartridge inbetween these two equidistant arcs. I found this improved the sound quite a bit - when I then moved the tip back to the lofgren point it got worse again. Which makes me think possibly lofgren isnt the best for my configuration.

    Anyone compared the two?
     
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    Yes. You have. And you have the result. Thanks for sharing.
     
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    Anyone esle bub. Do you have anything relevent to add to this thread?
     
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    Which was the elite protractor based on ?
     
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    Baerwald I would have thought. Almost all are. Like the clearaudio, hfn disk etc.
     
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