Looks like Bush

What's that saying about making the same mistake twice?

Well here's one former friend of America who won't be trading with them whilst Bush is in the White House. Let's see if the rest of the world can boycott American Business' and make our presence felt. Kind of like a set of UN Sanctions

 

perhaps the most compelling argument to join the EU yet? rather the french than the americans at present.
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julian

 

just had a look at which states voted for who... most telling? new york voted for kerry (if i'm reading it right). surely a sign that those most effected by 9/11 want to stop chewing old soup and move on whilst the inbred middle americans voted for bush as he';s 'one of them' and they swallowed all his bullshit.
i'm going to nuclear harden my garage.....
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julian

 

Julian,

it's not just the states - take a look at the counties within those states. The margin for Kerry in many urban areas is substantial. Bush seems to have made up ground in more rural counties, where from my experience, exposure to international media and knowledge of world affairs is pitiful.

Still looks like we won't know the result in Iowa or Ohio for some time, regardless of the fact that the major networks are unsurprisingly calling it for Bush.

 

I suspect, Fralulga will get pasted very very shortly.

 

I go to bed convinced Kerry's got it, and wake up to Bush's grinning mug.

Like 1992 all over again. It's too, too grim to contemplate.

 

well i for one am absolutely horrified. seriously thinking about handing in my us passport. maybe france will have me.
the first time he stole it and those that voted for him didn't really know what they were getting.... this time they have no excuse. the us is becoming an increasingly extreme theocracy. it seems to me that it is becoming just as f*cked as some of those up middle eastern countries.
i have even less intention to move back to the states.

 

I for one am disgusted. How dare those fu*k*ng Americans vote for their own man and totally ignore the wishes and demands of us Europeans?

Don't they know that left-leaning BBC liberalism is the only acceptable and politically correct doctrine?

I personally will not be accepting the result of this election. I declare it null and void and strongly suggest that the rest of you do too.

 

If Bush wins this then the the day the world ends will come another four years earlier. He is a selfish tw*t who cares about one thing only the USA. I think Bushs's foriegn and environmental policy is a joke.

In fact I think a country that allows somebody like Bush to become president is a joke. It is hardly surprising though as half of Americans still believe the world was created in seven days and oil and grows on trees.

I think the reason places like New York have gone for Kerry is that there is a lot of ethnic minorities, single people, none protestants etc. These people are not likely to vote for somebody who has strong values on marriage etc. The joke is as much as Bush likes to play the moral card he has less morals than a rat.

 

No need to be too depressed, the alternative was pretty grim too.

In a way it's poetic justice that the man who's f*cked things up so spectacularly is now tasked with trying to sort his own mess out. Something he doubtless will fail to do.

-- Ian

 

Optomistic Irony Ian, good call

 

:respect:

 

See, in my eyes, on that morning in 1992 there was a huge relief that the balding Welsh windbag wasn't in charge of the country!

Matt.

 

Fingers crossed that nothing big happens for another 4 years. I for one feel uneasy that the hawks are still in office and the chance of conflict remains high. Hopefully Dubya will look at the results of the various global votes and take a look at the reasons the world wanted him out.
Chances of that? Slim.

 

My guess would be that Clinton will win next time but by then, the US's standing in the world will be irrepairable.

One thing it shows is the power of the US domestic media. It appears that the vast majority of city dwellers, many of whom will have access to international news and viewpoints through the internet, wanted Bush out in all the main swing states.

Those living in small town America, fed the staple diet of CBS & ABC, seem to be completely oblivious to the damage caused to America's standing by the current administration.

I am seriously tempted to sell up all my American goods and boycott American companies in future purchases. Maybe if the global community creates it's own form of economic sanctions on the corporations of America (pending regime change of course), we can have our say and exert pressure by hitting them in their pockets. It needs some like minded individuals to get something rolling via the internet.

Think about it, would your lives really be made poorer by not giving money to the likes of Microsoft, Nike, McDonalds, Apple and the like?

 

Also the more secular diverse cosmopolitan states are likely to be less influenced by the rather worrying Christian evangelical movement.

 

I'm reliably informed (by Andrew Neil's political programme on BBC2) that in the US, the first 4 years are about re-election and the second 4 years about legacy.

Bush doesn't need to be re-elected now and this could bring some improvements. Blair will be more influential and will hopefully, tilt Bush to acting proactively in the Israeli/Palestinian issue. I hope and believe that there are many in Israel and Palestine who desperately want peace. With the necessity for strong action in response to terrorism (by the Israelis) and in response to strong action (by the Palestinians) both sides are caught in a vicious circle. They need a firm USA to extradite themselves from the mess they've got themselves into.

As for conflict, yes I think you can bet on it. On the one hand, Bush will not want to leave behind a legacy in Iraq like Lyndon Johnson had with Vietnam. That bodes well for their withdrawal strategy. On the other hand, there is no way that Bush and the USA will allow Iran to develop a nuclear bomb. Expect strong action there.

My forecast, all in all...

... heads down and hope we're still all here in four years.

 

merlin - you missed out the worst offender of the lot, Fox TV (aka Bush TV) :inferno:

Boycotting American goods is a noble idea but it could only ever hope to have a symbolic effect. What's needed is for Europe to unite against the US, not necessarily in an antagonistic or agressive way but to provide balance so that the US can't just trample rough shod over the rest of the world.

Michael

 

No chance. I can't see anyone influencing Bush's narrow minded insular isolationist f*** the lot of you policies.

2008 Hilary - v - Arnie