Matrix : Revolutions

Is crap .

 

Say it aint so!!!

 

Sorry mO but IMHO it's guff.

Cheesey, over-fx'd twaddle.

Loved the first one, thought the 2nd wasn't bad (better on DVD) but the potential/theories/ideas for the 3rd one are better than the actual film.....by some distance.

Monica Bellucci's paps do make a nice entrance though .

 

The second one was awful, I thought. Left me with no desire to see the third one.

-- Ian

 

I only just seen the second one last week! Thought it was pretty good.

 

Saw the second one on DVD (to refresh my memory) last week and we're going to see the 3rd one on Friday night.

Everyone said the 2nd movie binned the philosophy in exchange for SFX and I'd agree to some extent but there's still a surprising amount of pop-philosophy musings in it. I was more impressed by it the second time.

I want to see "Revolutions" just to see how they end it all (no Voodoo - you can't tell us all ).

Michael.

 

Oh come on Mike, the second one was simply crap.

we can try to dig into some sudo reasoning but it was just a terrible attempt at putting as much FX in a movie as possiible.

WTF would reeves need to fly round the world to get places? Its f**king computer, he just has to type "command="goto switzerland" in his head and he would be there.

But that wouldn't be very visual.

What about the highway scene, trying to get th ebloke off the truck, why not simply appear in the truck and take over the driver. Jesus.

There are so many gaping stupid big crappy holes in it as to make it laughable. Worse is I was nodding off by the point where the boring reason behind everything was explained to him.

Utter rubbish.

 

Don't hold back gary - tell us how you really feel

Michael.

 

snigger.

Funnily I found T3 to be entertaing, but then it wasn't trying to be serious either.

 

I though the second one was pretty good but thats only cos i didnt care what the hype was saying.

seeing the 3rd this weekend and from what I see here its complete crap so if i belive that and its even the slightliest bit better then crap I'll be happy.

 

In True Z/g style 'Over-hyped and utter Bollox', still Mr, Reeve didn't do too bad out of it I'm sure

 

the trouble with the matrix sequels is that effectively neo is all powerful which would make for a very boring story if followed to it's logical conclusion. about 5 minutes in he'd reboot the matrix, install a firewall and anti-virus software and everyone would live happily ever after on mush.
i for one will definately see revolutions as i've liked the previous 2. the first as something new and bold for a western movie and the second as brain candy. i must admit that my expectations are not high for movie 3 as, don't forget, it has to appeal to the alabama redneck as much as the manhattan high-brow, oh yes and those peasants who don;t live in the good 'ol u.s. of a.
cheers


julian

 

Whoa Daddy - step back Gary He he he!!!

Matrix Reloaded is FAR better the second time round (on DVD) but it certainly is no original... Too much fx but then hey, it's a land of make believe so it goes with the territory.

I wasn't so keen on the blatantly obviously recycled road - almost like watching a 50s cartoon where the same window, cupboard and wallpaper zips past every 2 milliseconds while Tom chases Jerry - the most obvious reuse of the scenery is with that filter road that comes in from the left - no attempt to disguise it at all the second and third times round. At least in Indiana Jones and the Temple of doom the mine truck track had different lighting so you didn't know it was only something like 50 foot long in reality....

Anyway - for those who HAVE seen it - is it worth me laying down £5.80 for Exeter's WORST cinema experience - the out of date Odeon? WHY oh WHY couldn't the Picture House get it in?

 

Tone, that was Superman - Matrix is Mr Reeves

Michael.

 

saw revolutions tonight and hmmm, in all not too bad. no real novelties although the fight for the dock is impressive from a technical / special effects standpoint. a lot of the visuals are so stylised as to be confusing which doesn't bode well for small screen / dvd viewing.
the finale was a little disapointing although 'the punch' was quite cool, not many of the questions the series raises are answered and it left everything open for sequels galore however there was a brave move for a hollywood movie about 2/3rds of the way through.
also the 'bama redneck possee was catered for by the agent smiths / comunists alegory.
i'll not be going to go an see it at the cinema again but it's a definate buy on dvd when available and not just from a completist point of view either.
if you've seen the first 2 movies then go see this one, just set your brain on automatic, enjoy it and don't expect too many answers.
cheers


julian

 

Saw Revolutions tonight and I thought it was actually pretty good. Not as good as the original but a bit better than the Reloaded. Whatever anyone says about it being just a Hollywood SFX/action bonanza it had more long(ish) scenes of dialogue with nothing else happening (and no music either) than you'd get in 2 or 3 of most Hollywood films put together (I would say the same about Reloaded since I saw it again recently).

The ideas and questions it raises are interesting and (for me at least) thought provoking. Of course the action and SFX are first class aswell.

Julian - I don't see a Smith/Communists allegory at all I'm not sure what "brave move for Hollywood" you're referring to either? I can think of only one thing but I can't say what it is without spoiling it for the rest.

The end is slightly disappointing and doesn't wrap things up as neatly as I would have liked but it's good all the same. I suppose you can always put a sequel onto anything but personally I doubt there will be a sequel. The 3 films were meant as a trilogy from the start (in fact, Reloaded and Revolutions were concieved as a single film but had to be split into two for time and economic reasons) and I would hope the Warchowski brothers have the sense not to do a sequel unless they can think of something truly original.

A sequel by anyone else would most likely be complete kak.

One thing that really amazes me about the whole "Matrix" thing is: How the hell did the Warchowski brothers, who AFAIK hadn't done anything of significance before, manage to pull it off and get Hollywood and all the big starts involved? Even more intriuging is the way they've managed to remain almost invisible. Not a single interview or publicity photo. Quite cool IMO

Michael.

 

Peter Jackson with the Lord Of the Rings Trilogy isn't far off too! A few great films but nothing anywhere on the scale of the LOTR films!

 

michael,

the way i saw it was that the smiths represented a society of ultimate equality where everyone was the same without choice or even the desire for choice. neo on the other hand represents the right to choose his own destiny. for middle america this is their idea of what communism is like, a bunch of faceless people drudging through their day, not because they want to but because they have no other choice with anyone unwilling forced to submit.

the brave move is probably what you think it is although i thought the camera work gave the game away too early.

Has anyone seen 'the league of extraortinary gentlemen'?

cheers


julian

 

JU, promised so much, delivered SOOOOO little, shame really, the premise was excellent. Tone

 

Fair enough....but do you think that the average Alabama meat head red-neck is going to get it?

Michael.