Thats why I asked, I remembered you raving about the sl3 you owned a few yrs back,having heard them myself a few weeks ago I'm suprised you enjoyed them so much they are quite different from the Merlin presentation BTW they were in a Tact based system how your taste in hifi has changed in the past 3/4yrs:) BTW would you consider a bakeoff at my place your cd7 Berning Merlin combi compared to my choice of kit, have room for 6 forum guys, be interesting to see how people reacted to hearing both the differing presentations in the one room