Ah yes ram, but if you read the thread, then quite frankly its like they've got different product altogether.

Shrill treble they say? Never heard so much bollocks - Believe me, I've heard plenty of cans that could have been said to have strident, tiring treble.

Complete apathy to the bass? So why do they possess some of the best bass I've heard from headphones.

Other things they said which I went into on the other thread, they are stating points which frankly are completely FALSE. That is different to opinion, if these dudes comparing CD players prefer the MF to the Naim and they give their reasons why (as long as they arent talking bollocks) then thats fine. But hifi choice's review was just complete bollocks in every respect, and thats not opinion, thats fact.

Dont believe me, do a search on www.headfi.org and you will see that I am not the only one who thinks this, and rarely ever is a bad word said about those cans.

I dare say I have heard more cans for a longer amount of time than the moron who reviewed those...