More Turntable Porn

Discussion in 'Hi-Fi and General Audio' started by SCIDB, Aug 2, 2007.

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    SCIDB Moderator

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    Hi,

    DPS Turntable

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    Pierre Lurne

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    SOTA Star

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    Technics Sl1200

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    Creek Turntable

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    Dual 505

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    Sansui SR222

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    Garrard SP25 MKIV

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    Marantz SLT-12

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    anon_bb Honey Badger

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    I have never seen the clearaudio plugged in - just standing there artfully lit. bet it sounds as crap as the rest of their decks.

    The yorke, sme and brinkmann have elegant simplicity and quality engineering.

    Form should reflect function - for the glitzy decks the form is the function.
     
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    mick parry stroppy old git

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    Chaps

    I noticed a reference to the Loricraft 501 at the start of this thread. It stated that the 501 was priced at £23k.

    I suspect the price is $23k.

    I spoke to Terry O Sullivan about 2 years ago and the top spec 501 made with a stainless steel chassis was about £10k. This price did not include an arm.

    Regards

    Mick
     
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    Stereo Mic

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    Hi Mick,

    I noted the cost at Munich this year - I can't recall if it was in sterling or in Euro but it certainly wasn't dollars sadly and it quite shocked me. I believe the reasoning was that anyone who would spend that much was really unconcerned about the price.

    Lovely deck though and I don't mind silly prices too much when you are buying real quality.

    Cheers

    M
     
    Stereo Mic, Aug 11, 2007
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    Markus S Trade

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    SM, you imply that Loricraft are price-gouging on the 501. While I'm not privy to the company's books, I don't believe that to be the case. First, the price of the 501 had to rise because they were losing money on the old version at the old price. Then they decided that the 501 was out of the reach of mere mortals anyway, so they wanted to make it as good as they could (exchanging many parts that were sourced from the UK before for parts of Swiss and German origin, I'm told), changing the metal chassis for a much higher spec one in the process. And yes, the price rose substantially, but it's not the same turntable anymore.

    They probably should have put Mk II suffix or something on it to make this clear to the observer.

    And it sounds really, really good. One of the handful of best turntables it has been my pleasure to hear.
     
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    mick parry stroppy old git

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    Chaps

    I know the cost of the new upgraded 501 was around £10k without the arm about 2 years ago.

    I suspect the 23K price is euros inc the arm, probably a Scheoder.

    It is feasible that the price has been increased but it seems unlikely.

    Regards

    Mick
     
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    Stereo Mic

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    Sorry Markus, that wasn't the implication at all -and apologies if my post read like that - it was just that it was a cost no object project these days. As you say it is a design without budget constraints - something I struggle to come to terms with I'm afraid. Just how much better is it than the £6K original example?

    Lovely deck I agree, but I'm afraid way beyond the means now of 99.99999% of the population.
     
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    dehavillandrfc Enrico and The Fermions

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    Well I thought somebody should put up a picture of an LP12 - so here is mine looking very resplendent too imho :D
     

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    joel Shaman of Signals

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    That's a bit of a fallacy TBH. The high-end market is populated by a very limited number of increasingly elderly individuals who buy newer and more expensive kit compulsively.
    Most very rich people simply have a house-wide A/V system put in by an installer who is sub-contracted by the architect or builder.
     
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    Joel,

    tell me about it! I have a friend who has made a lot of money in the last couple of years and did exactly what you said. He spent a fortune on having music piped through the house and in the living/music room the company connected it up to their own brand floorstanders which sound awful.

    One thing I have learnt never tell someone they have a crap sounding hifi system as its like telling them they have an ugly girl friend. Its all subjective.
     
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    SCIDB Moderator

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    Hi,

    It seems that the 23000 price does refer to the US price. I have seen that the verison with the stainless steel plinths is $22,000 and the one made from aluminium are $13,500.

    It is here.

    http://www.smartdev.com/lori-501.html

    So £10,000 seem about right.

    SCIDB
     
    SCIDB, Aug 13, 2007
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    Stereo Mic

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    Hi Dean,

    I saw that site - those are old prices I believe - it might be worth trying to place an order!

    I can't see why they would price up in $ at a German show and prior to the show I was kind of vaguely considering a 501 as a replacement for the SME.
     
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    SCIDB Moderator

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    Hi,

    more porn,

    Denon DN 308

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    Luxman PD-444

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    Micro Seiki DDX 1500

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    Nakamichi TX 1000

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    Marantz TT 1000

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    SCIDB Moderator

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    Hi,

    I have just seen that in 1983, the price of the Nakamichi Tx1000 was £4999.

    The Marantz TT 1000 was £999.

    A Trio LO7D was £1150

    A Technics SP10MKII was £626

    A Technics SL1200 MkII was £180

    A Linn LP12 was £374

    A Pink Triangle was £398

    A Michell Gyrodec was £595

    An Elite The Rock was £550

    A Heybrook TT2 was £195

    A Rega Planar 2 was £115

    A Rega Planar 3 was £148

    A Dual CS 505-1 was £85


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    RickyC

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    That will be why I got the Dual CS 505-1 then!

    Cheers

    Rich

    PS Like the Marantz "accessory"!
     
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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    ''a computing turntable'' LOVE IT!!!

    looks like it comes with a built in cd player or something on the left??? or maybe thats the computer bit?! :D

    Actually, I really like the look of the Micro Seiki.
     
    bottleneck, Aug 14, 2007
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    Paul Ranson

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    I think the Nakamichi had a mechanism for finding the exact centre of the record and driving the platter sideways to and fro in time with the rotation to ensure pitch stability.

    Quite possibly an extreme solution to a non-problem but entertaining regardless.

    Paul
     
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    The Nak is supposed to be an awesome deck. I can't say I can verify that because like most things I like the look of I've never actually heard one. Try:

    www.thevintageknob.org

    This has loads of info on classic Japanese HiFi and a fair bit on some of the more outlandish TTs, including the above and more.

    I would love the Luxman PD555 as well, it looks a bit better than the 444 and also has the vacuum suction system.
     
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    Stereo Mic

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    Typical rip off Britain. It was Y1,100,000 which translated to $4,700 in those days. $1.50 to the £ = £3,150. Still 9 times the cost of a Pink Triangle -but then it featured both electronics and engineering expertise.
     
    Stereo Mic, Aug 15, 2007
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    TonyL Club Krautrock Plinque

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    It's far from a non-problem - most people with a decent sense of pitch can easily spot an eccentric record.

    Tony.
     
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