Most effective anti-vibration yet.... (tweak)

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    Tim F

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    Ok all so this is a simple one that I'm sure you've all heard of but it appears to be the best so far.

    My CD player has a bad habit of getting vibration on the chasis. I have tried hard spikes, squash balls and all manor of issolation pads.... so I tried a low pressure inner tube (kids size) and put this under the CD player (instead of feet), then put a heavy stone slab on the player. This has reduced vibrations more than any other tweak I've tried. Hint: Put a heavy weight e.g. 10x10cm 1kg block on top of the CD player and move that around to get the CD player level. Otherwise it'll sit at an angle....

    Simple but effective.

    Cheers, Tim
     
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    voodoo OdD

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    Tim, I tried this a few years back with a Linn Genki, weighed down with some Marble tiles and resting on Sorbothane pads.

    At first it appeared to make a definite improvement with an increase in detail and attack but after leaving (and enjoying) it for a few weeks I decided to try without. The results were interesting and straight away the result was IMO better. The perceived improvement in detail (and such) [with tweaks]was actually quite tiring on the ears and the music became much more natural [without tweeks].

    It's different for different set-ups but I'd leave it as is and try again in a few weeks with the tweeks removed.

    What kind of rack are you using ? [To certain individuals : Let's not turn this thread into a M*N* debate :p )
     
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    penance Arrogant Cock

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    I found the inner tube tweak absolutly neccesary on a TNT flexi - soon to be replaced.
    I cant add much mass ontop as my CDp is a top loader, all i have is a small piece of stainless steel to help levelling.
    I think Voodoo is right, can be very system dependant (and listener dependant)
     
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    michaelab desafinado

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    Come on guys, stop piddling about in the minor leagues of hifi, what you need are Shakti Stones :ffrc:

    Michael.
     
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    voodoo OdD

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    Hasn't someone over here used them ?
     
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    MartinC Trainee tea boy

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    I hadn't realised they made them for cables before seeing that picture!
     
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    I-S Good Evening.... Infidel

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    Will he, won't he?
     
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    bottleneck talks a load of rubbish

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    thats what I was wondering Isaac!! Will the scarlet pimpernell of cables avow his allegiance to voodoo stones?
     
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    The following reviewers endorse SHAKTI:

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    In other words is this a list of crack pot dellutional fools or unsuspecting idiot who allow their name to be deflamed in the Shakti manufacturer or uneducated grown men who have no education to be able to think for themselves or men who are willing to sale their soul for a handsome bribe or sad conman being part of the same conspiracy to deceive gullible consumers or just mad or are we too narrow minded sceptical audiophiles to use our own ears.
     
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    Robbo

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    What does deflamed mean?
     
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    julian2002 Muper Soderator

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    so has anyone actually tried them then?
    cheers


    julian
     
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    kermit still dreaming.......

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    Tim , get some boxes made up for the tube , its a lot neater .
    If the tube is in a box , you can , with a little trial and error, add a bit more of the tube to the area which has to support the most weight . this negates the need for something on top of the equipment.
    If you have a suspended wooden floor , then you,ll probably get a bigger effect putting air plats under your speakers .(its probably worthwhile still trying if you have a concrete floor , but the effect won,t be so big.)
    I did have air plats under every piece of equipment and whilst your cdp is a bigger improvement than the other boxes , each one will (to my ears) improve a bit .
    The cumilative effect can be quite considerable .

    If you fancy having a play around (i,ve only tried this with a suspended wooden floor) buy a couple of open ended cycle tubes(the ones that fit various diameter wheels) .
    Inflate them slightly and then wrap them along your speaker cables .They,ll probably be too short , so just aim to have the tube where the cable meets the floor .
    You,ll have to fix both ends with a bit of tape to stop the tube unravelling.
    it,s a £10 tweak , it does look a bit nasty , but if there is an improvent in sound you can always cover the tube/cable with some of that nylon sheathing .
    I found it made a difference and it encouraged me to find a speaker cable with a damped inner core (looks neater)
    richard
     
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    Robbo

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    I have found air platforms do make a difference under most pieces of kit (even power supplies). IMO it a case of mixing and matching equipment supports used to suit personal taste.
     
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    Of course not Julian. We are so clever on this forum that we can tell what works and what doesn't without ever needing to listen to anything.
     
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    kermit still dreaming.......

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    I thought Henry t had a couple of shakti stones
     
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    MartinC Trainee tea boy

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    Might that particular tweak be more easily and neatly done with large bubble wrap? I mean just cut out a few large bubbles and place them between the cable and the floor. That way you wouldn't really see them, and as they won't have much weight on them they shouldn't really deflate. Just a thought.
     
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    julian2002 Muper Soderator

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    oops my mistake.
    cheers


    julian
     
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    Not guilty ;) , would like to give them a try though. There were some used ones for sale over at Audiogon recently, I was going to purchase but was beaten to it by someone else (on this forum ;) ).

    It's probably the Shun Mook M-Pingo discs you're thinking of Kermit, which I do have a few of and are used for vibration control whereas the Shakti stones deal with EMF/RFI.

    I've just bought some other vibration control devices recently which at least 3 other forum members use. Should be here by the end of the week so we'll see what's what with these things. :)
     
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    kermit still dreaming.......

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    Ah yes of course , the shun mooks , my mistake .
    I take it your going to try some stillpoints, then Henry?
     
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    penance Arrogant Cock

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    By all acounts the still points are very good.

    Did anyone notice the graphs from dyno testing on the shatki site, the use the same kinda gear for car ignition systems.
    But of course it is all bullshit:rolleyes:
     
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