Move over Kournikova....

It's the paedophile hysteria, where everyone clambers over everyone else to shout out that they don't find teenage girls attractive. If you fancied some 14 or 15 year old girl at the age of 16, chances are you'd probably still fancy them now, but you have to pretend that you don't, so that you don't appear too pervy.

I remember watching 'Streetmate', a C4 prog, ages ago (Davina McCall's first show, I think). The premise was that some loser had to trawl the streets looking for a date, which D McC would set up. This 20 year old chap spotted a very presentable girl having a drink at a table outside a pub. DMcC agreed that she looked pretty suitable (she was very good-looking) and went over to her.... Great embarrassment all round when she turned out to be only 14.

There is a line to be drawn, but it's a very difficult one when nature is doing it's best to make adolescent people as appealing as possible to the opposite (or same) sex.

 

James whatching streetmate, have you a fetish for bare arms like Davina has?

I think the line we have to draw is a moral one, lets face it although they have nice womanly bodies, they are still children upstairs, as to being over or under 30 thats nonsense, when you have grown up, usually sometime in your 20's IMO then that's when your too old to be going out with teeenagers, up till then enjoy yerself, and remember "looking is for free"

Ps how long's it gonna take for this thread to be turneds into **** debate?

 

I agree that you can find a girl attractive on one level, but ought to want nothing to do with her for reasons of age. Apart from anything else, conversations might be somewhat tedious for both parties.

That's fair enough, but there's no point in denying that you find her attractive.

 

I never said I don't find them attractive, but just wouldn't go there on moral grounds, doesn't stop me looking though, sometimes I pass my local Naim dealer and look in the window, but doesn't mean I'd buy any They may give me a couple of nights of pleasure but couldn't live with them long term.

 

The other thing that muddies the already murky waters in this area, is the variation from country to country in the age of consent. 16 here, I think it's 14 in France and 12 in Holland, but 18 in the USA, where oral sex is apparantly not allowed in some states. Running parallel with all the paedophile hysteria is the increasing sexualisation of the young in popular culture.

But I'm sure none of you want to discuss these -ah- delicate subjects, so I'll shut up. Back to tennis.

Anyone for?

 

One of the great joys of not being a boy aged 14-16 anymore is that I don't have to be interested in 14-16 year old girls anymore. I mean, is there an age when women are more, um, difficult to like?

Even at that age, I mostly admired women over 25. Now that I'm over 40, I may enjoy looking at women under 30, but would never dream of having anything to do with one. And I don't even particularly enjoy looking at women under 18 or 20.

Old geezerdom, here I come. But at least it doesn't seem likely I'll end up a dirty old man like some here

 

There is a difference between noticing a pretty girl, and hanging around playgrounds, or perhaps shopping malls these days, looking for them, Markus.

[dirty middle-aged man]

 

There's also a difference between noticing a pretty girl and lusting after her. Wasn't it the latter we were discussing here?

 

I guess as long as she's above the age of consent - which depends which country you are in - no crime, no problem. When I was 16 I had a girlfriend who was 15. I've still got some pictures of her (no, not that sort!) and I can still see why I rather liked her. It's a part of nature.

PS My partner/girlfriend is 40. Hope this helps!

PPS Is there an age where she can't be a 'girlfriend' any more?

 

When I was 16, I had a girlfriend who was 16. I still have pictures of her (yes, exactly that sort). I can still see what attracted me. But she wouldn't attract me now.

I have no problem with men who are attracted by younger women/girls, as long as they are above the age of consent. I simply wanted to state that not every man is attracted by young women/girls.

 

Also, the age of consent is rather arbitrary and clearly it has to be defined but it seems somewhat absurd that it's OK to lust after a 16 year old girl but if she were 15 and 364 days old it wouldn't be OK. There isn't any magical transformation that happens on their 16th birthday.

So, by that token, I don't think there's anything wrong with finding girls younger than the age of consent attractive or even lusting after them, provided you don't actually do anything about it.

Society is very contradictory about the whole thing. As James has mentioned, there's the whole paedophile hysteria but at the same time the models in womens magainzes (aimed at 20-35yr old women btw) are getting ever younger and girls as young as 11 and 12 are encouraged (certainly not hindered) to promote their sexuality and dress sexily. There are many hypocritical men who would be first in the lynch mob to string up a paedophile who had had relations with 14/15 yr old girls but at the same time fancy the pants off their neighbour's 14 yr old daughter.

Michael.

 

Mine's 40, too, if that helps. When I found her after my divorce, it felt kind of strange to tell people I had a girlfriend again. "Meine Frau" (= literally, my woman; idiomatically, my wife) felt much more appropriate. May want to change this someday ...

 

Yeah Marriage

Saying that I'm 37 and the missu is 42 (just) but i've allways liked em a bit older, (have to say she doesn't look it though, as she teaches aerobics as a hobby)

 

" it seems somewhat absurd that it's OK to lust after a 16 year old girl but if she were 15 and 364 days old it wouldn't be OK. There isn't any magical transformation that happens on their 16th birthday.

So, by that token, I don't think there's anything wrong with finding girls younger than the age of consent attractive or even lusting after them, provided you don't actually do anything about it."

Well this was the unsettling, or amusing, depending on your outlook, thing about the Davina McCall programme. One minute everyone was eyeing up a 'tasty bird', the next minute she says she's 14. Oops.

 

Why should we know better? To fancy someone at the age of peak fertility is wholly natural, although one takes other things into account too

Edited: I've no idea what age she is. If she's "underage" the State should stamp it on her forehead

 

Damn straight - even if she IS more blond than I'd like... I'd show her how to swing a racquet anyway

And yeah, she's OVER the age of consent so it doesn't matter by how much - 12 years younger is nothing these days. That said, I'd prefer Joss Stone

Besides, if it bleeds it breeds (*)

*a friend's phrase!

 

"If there's grass on the court - play ball !"

 

Pubic hair went out of fashion in the mid-eighties. I blame the paedophiles for this.

 

Perhaps some of you should take this test

http://www2.b3ta.com/jailbaitorlegal/

 

... for girls. The boys have held out a bit longer, but these days girls won't even look at you if you're not shaved and have a piercing in your privates. What I haven't worked out yet is how they can tell when a bloke is fully clothed?