Needledrops and demo tracks

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    Paul Ranson

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    It's an AT33PTG I've had for a while and finally installed last autumn. Currently mounted on an Alphason Xenon, soon to return to a Mk1 Ekos. Comparisons may be posted.

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    Yes - I think this is actually what is being heard with these samples. I've got both the LP and CD of this album, and irrespective of which 'table/cart combo I use, the CD version sounds louder (compressed) and has perhaps also a boosted bottom end.


    I'm using Audacity on a Mac, optical input from external ADC at 24/96. Is there a way to confirm that Audacity isn't messing it up?

    Sounds good - I may have a play with the 33PTG later
     
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    I have no doubt that CD is louder with better bass (& I haven't heard a track yet where an LP has a more pronounced bass than a CD) but IMO these samples posted do not sound meaty enough. I've listened through headphones & main system. Unfortunately I don't have either tracks to compare directly. I don't think it has anything to do with the 24/96 recording.
     
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    I've had a look at the raw data and I was probably wrong about the significant bits. I had just zoomed in with Audacity and looked for samples below -96dB.

    Paul
     
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    Here are a couple of tracks I recorded recently (not unique to ZG I'm afraid).

    Black Sun_D can D_ Aion.wav

    Black Sun - Dead Can Dance (Aion)

    [​IMG]

    Thomas Dolby Dissidents my deck.wav

    Dissidents - Thomas Dolby (The Flat Earth)

    [​IMG]

    Most of this has been recorded on either modified (some lightly, some heavily) or completely custom equipment. The TT is a custom built, fluid damped, twin suspension, suspended affair with magnetic bearing, CF composite chassis (lots of other bits) etc. Arm is a lightly modified Naim Aro, cartridge is a Troika reworked by ESCo. The phonostage is based on a pair of modified Naim 323 cards powered by a custom power supply loosely based on a Naim Snaps. The phonostage is (in this case) fed directly to a cheap external DAC and then to my ASUS Netbook (the software used was Audacity).

    These recordings were done purely as a bit of fun - they roughly resemble the sound from this equipment but I would not say that they represent it to a very high level - the DAC, in particular, is nothing special - but I don't involve myself much with digital matters.

    P.S. You can't buy any of the parts I designed or built - I mention them purely to satisfy any curiosity.
     
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    Thanks Mark, will have a good listen to those tonight.
     
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    Cool - hope you enjoy. The Thomas Dolby is a real 'hi-fi demonstration' kind of track (I still like it though :)).
     
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    Yup .. did the drums dance in front of your eyes too?

    best via the system & not headphones for me.
     
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    OK lets Rock

    To further the FM debate here is a R2 recording done in a bit of a hurry

    Robert Cray live

    Wonderful bit of live broadcasting that must shoot a few bullets from a Smoking Gun through arguments to phase out FM.

    http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=...c215e0e8e3e52a48786b8cb8ae8b281b16e3ec4689298

    I don’t think I’ll be leaving this for long so download while you have a chance

    64 Mb WAV so may take a while
     
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    I've got a phonostage on loan at the minute - I may do a comparative needledrop tomorrow - it's good....
     
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    Robert Cray

    Thanks for that - excellent :)
     
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    Don't tell us what it is, just put some files up.
     
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    Don't fret - I wasn't going to tell you :). I'll do recordings tomorrow of the Dead Can Dance and the Thomas Dolby tracks that I recorded earlier.
     
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    ooh bring it round.
     
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    will do - later tomorrow probably.
     
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    I think he is already saving up for it!
     
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